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Another brand I will not buy. What has become of so many companies selling out? Apple, Lenovo, Hisense, and so on.
Worth it for the price though. A 100" Hisense can be had for $1k now at Best Buy. Would have been a $20,000 TV 10 years ago.
Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days.

Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

> live TV

Does anyone watch linear TV other than for sport and news?

Everything else (movies, TV shows) is through streaming apps, no?

Once I verify a home video product works as intended I remove its network connection and never connect it again. I then leave its static ip address configured and block any traffic from it on the off chance it’s ever connected again.

The sole exception is my PlayStation 5. I use apps on it for all streaming.

The other day I was at a spa, they had a TV in the background showing a channel with relaxing images, but after 5 minutes ads started playing.I don't think the spa staff even knew about it. we're fucked
That’s what I call progress! ;)
I have a rooted LG WebOS TV. It's really nice. I can ssh into it. It's on a dedicated VLAN which has all LG domains and IP firewalled off. It can connect to Youtube, using a version of the Youtube app with integrated adblocker and sponsorblock. It's absolute superb.
If someone was offering you a sweet but in exchange they punched you in the face, you'd probably question whether the sweet was really worth it. Unless, of course, you're addicted to the sweets.

Time to kick the addiction. Seek out ways to spend your time that are good for you and/or others.

Love my Apple TV box. Just sayin’

Why you would want your TV Manufacturer to control the experience at this point I have no idea. 5-6 years ago, we were a Roku only household. Now we are Apple TV all the way and haven’t looked back.

In the past, you had to wait for the tubes to warm up, before you got a picture.

Nowadays, you have to wait for the thing to finish booting.

In the future, you have to wait for the ads to finish playing?

Here could some European company that already makes tv to step in and create something good, with no ads, and even better if they promise to open the sourcecode, bootloader etc... Something like Philips for example. But I guess they are too busy making lightbulbs to notice that they could fill that gap on the TV market space.
Philips has made "smart" TVs for years, including OLEDs, and they're more or less Android TVs like most other manufacturers. So I wouldn't hold your breath for them.
Searching for "commercial display" will get you some dumb TVs. They tend to cost 2x, but you get what you pay for.

We just gave away our 55" Hisense to our friend. I hope she doesn't think it means we hate her now. ;)

(Side note: not having a TV in the living space allowed us to freely design it to be a living space.)

I'll keep not connecting my TV to the Internet and keep using a Fire TV stick for now.
Reminds me of the people of the future in Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” who watch large TVs where most of the space is taken by advertising.

It’s amazing how this one turned morphed from humor into an eerie warning of the future in 20 years.

https://youtu.be/YqQ6D0Bu-a8

More and more I think that advertising should just be banned. People will tell me it's useful. I don't believe it. But even if it were true, it's not worth it. Sorry, advertisers, you abused it horribly, you ruined it for everyone.
i am never buying another smart tv again. we all should vote with our wallet, but alas — such is life.

i will be replacing my existing (3 year old tv) when its time with a pc monitor and yes, i will go down in size. i’ve found that really large tbs aren’t really adding that much and dominate your house the minute you walk in.

I love my Hisense TV. It was the best bang for my bucks when I bought it. Nice and big, nice and bright and 4k. I'm not a pixel peeper by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm not too fussed about having the best of the best in my living room. I've had it so far for about 5 years, and I might keep it for much longer.

That TV has not whiffed a single packet over it's network interface, and it never will. I've learnt my lesson with smart previous smart tv's (looking at you Samsung), and I'm more than happy to run outdated firmware on my TV. If it works it works.

If I buy a new tv that needs internet to get working, or the shipped firmware is buggy, then I'll take it back to the store as it's not working. Simple as.

Peacock app does the same thing. Mandatory 15-second-long commercial before starting whatever you want to watch.
completely unsuprising, Hisense is garbage and actively user hostile.
I was going to Lowe's tomorrow to buy a Hisense dehumidifier, but fuck them. Will find a different brand