> Open-sourcing is fundamentally coming from our desire to build a successful business. We are competing with other highly funded, closed-source competitors, and we think opening and providing the resources for the community to improve Warp is a smart way for us to accelerate product development. Yes, we are a VC funded startup, but we do not have the resources to compete on price or massively subsidize usage – we need to build our business by offering the best possible product to the most excited community.
Sorry but I can't read this statement in a tone is not absolutely dry sarcasm.
Warp is a masterclass in how to have a great product statement, very nice UI and completely ruin it with greed, closed-source, and by not listening to your customers.
I don't know who at Warp got replaced and wants to "fix" things, but they have a lot to overcome. At this point, it might not even matter-- another product written from scratch might have better success.
Sad that they didn't open source the commit history. I would have loved to branch off of like 5 years ago when Warp was just a terminal, rip out all the AI and cloud shit, and turn it into just a nice terminal with some neat features.
Their terminal is just Alacritty, why would you do all these extra steps instead of just using Alacritty, or Ghostty? The terminal emulator was never their selling point, the AI wrapper was.
I really like Warp. It's a lot nicer to be able to visualize what I'm doing in the terminal. Some people don't like the AI features, but they only activate if you log in.
My main driver has been Ghostty but I've been looking at Warp for a while. Warp seems like a full on IDE (~ADE) though, as opposed to a minimalistic terminal. Can anyone add some thoughts? Are these 2 very different?
tangential: I've seen Mitchel tweet that people in SF have ran up to him showing him how they fully riced their Ghostty setup. How many people here have done this and how easy/manageable is it? e.g. just forking the repo and implementing whatever Warp feature I like?
Holy shit this made my day. Warp’s convenience shell wrapping is amazing. It’s the only terminal where I can actually edit a long command in place rather than copy pasting into an editor and doing so there.
Now I’m more or less assured I can retain this convenience without being forced into more AI crap.
I hope someone will create a lightweight version without AI and code editing stuff. The terminal experience is the best, but I don't have any use for the agentic stuff while having claude code, opencode, codex and plenty other options.
This is a pretty good used case for vibecoding. “Claude, take this project and rip out all the obnoxious monetization and vendor lock in.” It just might do the trick. I’ve been to get rid of a fair bit of paid software by just cloning the parts I want with little more than a high-level description.
I don’t think the approach of open source as a substitute for a quality program is going to last.
I originally got into Warp because they made a terminal where my normal text input keyboard shortcuts work.
As they've been scrambling to find a way to monetize and riding the AI train, it feels more bloated than ever and the constant pushing for me to use "agents" and whatnot really put my off using it. Plus with all the privacy concerns I can't with good conscience use it on my work machine.
So yes, I'd like a non-tracking, no-AI version of Warp too.
I've been trying to figure out what the long term play is here - is it an angling for a frontier lab acquisition? Or does open-sourcing put Warp in the same sort of category as OpenCode - where charging for LLM tokens becomes the main commercial driver?
Recently I've started to use https://superset.sh as alternative to Warp. After the volks @mastra mentioned it. Very cool open source project.
I'm actually pretty proud of the final setup I've created with it.
Each time I start to implement a new ticket, superset will pull the ticket from linear, create a worktree/workspace, reserve ports, start the servers, start a browser and start Claude with the ticket as instructions.
The cool thing with this setup is, I can have like 10x the same servers running on different ports/worktrees.
Each time an agent is done, I switch to the workspace, look at the browser and can immediately test things.
I hope someone will make a version of Warp where I can bring in Openrouter key for free. Or any other provider, for that matter. I'd pay $5/10/month just to be able to use it.
Interestingly i had been building a terminal in rust and libghostty(with Linux and windows supported too) with built-in agent that understands terminal, too.
And the motivation was warp is doing a little bit more than a terminal.
As someone who was interested in warp in the early days (new rust terminal!), but who would never use a closed source terminal, this feels like a pyrrhic victory, since I don’t care at all about the AI accoutrements.
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[ 96.8 ms ] story [ 89.6 ms ] threadAppreciate the candid take. Warp is great.
Sorry but I can't read this statement in a tone is not absolutely dry sarcasm.
Warp is a masterclass in how to have a great product statement, very nice UI and completely ruin it with greed, closed-source, and by not listening to your customers.
I don't know who at Warp got replaced and wants to "fix" things, but they have a lot to overcome. At this point, it might not even matter-- another product written from scratch might have better success.
EDIT: well looks like this is not OS/2 Warp. I wish the title would have noted this is somekind of app instead of just saying "warp".
https://x.com/mitchellh/status/2049159764261925005
tangential: I've seen Mitchel tweet that people in SF have ran up to him showing him how they fully riced their Ghostty setup. How many people here have done this and how easy/manageable is it? e.g. just forking the repo and implementing whatever Warp feature I like?
I don’t think the approach of open source as a substitute for a quality program is going to last.
As they've been scrambling to find a way to monetize and riding the AI train, it feels more bloated than ever and the constant pushing for me to use "agents" and whatnot really put my off using it. Plus with all the privacy concerns I can't with good conscience use it on my work machine.
So yes, I'd like a non-tracking, no-AI version of Warp too.
I'm actually pretty proud of the final setup I've created with it.
Each time I start to implement a new ticket, superset will pull the ticket from linear, create a worktree/workspace, reserve ports, start the servers, start a browser and start Claude with the ticket as instructions.
The cool thing with this setup is, I can have like 10x the same servers running on different ports/worktrees. Each time an agent is done, I switch to the workspace, look at the browser and can immediately test things.
It's like having 10 virtual desktops. Wonderful!
And the motivation was warp is doing a little bit more than a terminal.
https://con.nowledge.co
Glad to see now warp is open-sourced
Nice...