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> She was anxious, because you instilled a sense of panic in her.

That's not why she was anxious! She was anxious because, according to author's own account, this is someone:

a) flying for the first time

b) hardly speaks English

c) is in a foreign country

d) solo responsible for 4 grand kids running around

etc.

Blaming the airport staff who have to optimize for the greater good is quite something.

Navigation in a lot of public places is pretty bad. I think interactive maps on small terminals could help a lot. Personally, I find it much easier to understand things from a map, especially when it shows exactly where you are.
Everyone over 40 knows how terrible air travel has become.
> Upon seeing this, the experienced visitor to this sceptred isle knows to smartly turn on their heel because B45 is right behind them, but we occasional travellers don't.

Railways aren't much better. German railways are bad enough, but Eastern Europe... good luck even finding a realtime track schedule, and screw you if you don't speak the language. Last time in Rijeka there was construction going on but no indications anywhere, my fellow travellers were lucky I spoke Croatian and recognized that the attendant was shouting in Croatian for the people on what should have been a train...

Am I crazy or are the general workers at most US airports of dubious quality at best?
I can't agree more. I was once catching a flight, went to my gate and found no one there and the flight status monitors saying "Cancelled". I couldn't find an agent at any desk, so went back out of security to check-in to figure out what was going on. The agent proceeded to act like I was the biggest idiot in the world for leaving the gate because "we don't control those boards, your flight isn't cancelled, the gate was changed". So I had to run back through security to barely catch my flight.

Another place I experience this phenomenon is bike shops. They'll start talking to you with specialized vocabulary and won't give you the time of day if you don't know exactly what they're talking about. Yet, I brought my bike to the bike shop because I'm not an expert bike mechanic. Funny enough, I couldn't find a bike shop that wasn't like this so with the help of youtube I do all my own bike work now.

I wish bicycle shop workers all the best, but man, they really don’t want to have your business… Everything is sold out, all maintenance is expensive, and there’s never any helpful way to do anything.
This has some lessons that apply much more broadly than to just airports (e.g. apps that make you jump through hoops and expect you to know what 2fa or SSO mean)
Or just anyone involved in communication at all. For example my condo management team has names for every part of the building that they just assume that everyone understands. They don't seem to understand that most of the people living here don't spend most of their time reading the building floor plan.
My favorite but of airport-ese that emerged post-9/11 is that on most US airlines you can now have 1 carry-on and 1 personal item.

As far as I can tell the difference between them is that a personal item can't have wheels.

This is currently the #4 story on the home page, an article about someone complaining about not being able to figure out an airport. This must be why the standard recommendation is to get to the airport 2 hours(!) before your flight.
I dislike the sense of judgment from TSA officials when I don’t correctly predict which items they do/don’t want me to put in the tray. It’s not my fault that different airports seem to have completely different rules for the same items.
While I found this rant mostly annoying:

> When we try to find gate B45, we encounter the following sign:

(see board with 2 B45 gates)

Well, yes. This is wrong. And confusing. But mostly wrong

I suspect airports could be a whole lot simpler if the notions of "security" and "border control" didn't exist or were otherwise relaxed.
How about two different planes departing to exactly the same destination at exactly the same time from two different terminals? That's how I missed my plane from Belgrade to Vienna. I have no other explanation but that they do it on purpose.
i think that 90% of these problems would be solved by an easily accessible, standardized map of each airport.

When i attempted to find airport maps, I was met with a mess of mobile apps, mobile website pdf's, and an enormous amount of text.

Just... give me an easy to use map. Call out the obvious use cases like "how to transfer terminals" and "your bags will/will-not be checked through".

Post title should be, Dear people who design the airport, not Dear people who work at the airport.
Absolutely! I travel a LOT, am able-bodied and frequent the same airports, and I am routinely confused and anxious.

Bad call-out to Heathrow though where they’re amongst the best in the world at this.

Experienced travelers also often face troubled, contradictory instructions from airport staff seemingly at random.

The experience doesn't have to be so stressful and confusing, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

Last time I flew, it was with United and I highly recommend their app. Clearly designed by people who know airports suck. It automated everything, from checkin and tickets, kept me updated on flights and gates, mapped them out and told me how long it would take to get to the gate and where security lines were the longest. Even tracked my checked luggage.
Funny. I love flying partly for the very reason that airports need to be idiot-proof.
Expectation is the source of frustration. Embrace the chaos, accept the journey.
I flew out of JFK a few days ago. Delta has about 50 check-in kiosk, and a few gate agents. With so many terminals, I was wondering why the area was so packed, with ten-minute lines to use an check-in kiosk.

I went to see a gate agent because I had a question. Right after yelling at someone else for the same reason, they told me "No, you have to use the kiosks."

By the time I got to the check-in kiosks I figured it out. Maybe they worked for some people but it had to be like 20% at best. Everyone else had to have help, myself included. It wouldn't scan my passport for the first 5 attempts, and then it wouldnt print my bag tag so I had to see the agent anyways.

What is the purpose of an automated system that drives everyone to the manual system? It just added an extra step.

Sorry for venting.

The manufacturers and vendors who sold the non-working check-in kiosks profited. That reason alone is enough justification.
I've just hit 2 million miles last week.

All of this is true, and no matter how much you do it, it's still all true.

I can't even keep track of what I'm supposed to do at my own home airport that I've been to thousands of times. Some people know me on a first name basis there, and still act judgmental when something was (seemingly randomly) changed and I don't know about it.

TSA is by far the worst in the USA though. Their expectation that you do exactly what you should, without telling you what to do, while constantly changing the rules, is infuriating. Often there'll be 2-3 lines and DESPITE HAVING THE SAME SCANNERS, they'll have different unspoken rules that you are literally yelled at over.

I feel differently, after travelling a bit all the airports are so cookie cutter I was in awe of the human effort required to reach this point of harmony.

It's all so organized and simple and zero need to rush. They even have signs in all major languages, it's nuts!

Source: SF, Miami, New York, Bolivia, Argentina, Texas - all kind of the same all over. Like visiting different Wawa's.

In Lexington, KY I was chided for taking out my laptop "You don't need to do that" and then at Dallas Fort Worth I got chided for not taking out my laptop. Kafkaesque is the best word I have to describe it. Turns out Lexington has nicer/newer scanners and somehow I'm supposed to know which scanners you need to take your laptop out for.

Additionally I want to make a scene every time I hand over documents and get told "I don't need this" since if I hadn't provided that ID/Passport/Boarding pass there was an equal chance I'd get berated for not providing it. There is zero empathy for the traveller. If I walk forward I get yelled at, if I wait to be called I get yelled at, it's infuriating. Everything about the airport feels like a lose-lose scenario to me.

I don't fly that often and every time I do I hate the airport experience so much because I feel like I'm constantly doing _something_ wrong.

The security theater of the TSA is just the moldy cherry on top of the shit sundae that is flying.