Gosh, the voice singing “unlimited downloads!” but the underlying text saying “400 per day” sure hit hard. As if generative AI needed more publicity for its “we are literally just making stuff up” approach to
getting stuff done.
I don't think this could be a model issue with not following properly (I hope for the sake of ElevenLabs), otherwise this would the most botched model release we've seen so far. Their main product release with a demo and not a single person listened to/read that demo and noticed the difference?!
Something must have happened here, miscommunication between departments so the blog post authors/owners and whoever made the actual music generation missed some update in-between when they made this and the release. If it's truly that the model chose not to follow passed lyrics/hallucination, and they still released this, I'd be lost for words.
Great sound quality, definitely better than Suno 5 and 6. It let me download a WAV file which goes unfiltered up to 20kHz (Suno goes to ~15kHz and has more artefacts).
It's interesting to see there are text differences between the audio and the blog post. At the point where it vocalizes unlimited downloads by Plus users, the text says 400. I wonder if that's hallucination or a post-music-generation edit.
Note that ElevenLabs claims the right to train on any data you upload to the service, such as editing a song you made etc.
> (d) License to Your Content and NILV. You hereby grant to ElevenLabs a license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, make available, communicate to the public, publicly perform, display, and use your Uploaded Music and Input (including your name, image, likeness, voice rights and other indicia of your persona that may be embodied in your Uploaded Music or Input (collectively, “NILV”)) and your Output, in each case, to provide the Services (including the trust and safety features therein), to promote and improve the Services, and to develop and improve our other services and products. Such license shall be…
Are people asking for this to exist? There isn't a big enough pool of talented humans willing to work for low pay, widely available cheap recording gear and free musical educational material, that music needs to be made even cheaper and soullessly?
I'm not against some AI uses, I use LLMs myself where it makes sense, but music is one of the things that we were told AI would free up all our time to do!!
Yes. I'm having fun making an indie game, which will most likely never see the light of day, let alone profit. I'd definitely pay cents to dollars to have fitting background music. There's no chance I'd pay for a human musician.
Think of it as an extension of a dj . Instead of downloading the music , you refer , bend , and create your own . The quality of entire electronic music will balloon due to this .
I don't care about AI bands and wouldn't listen to the music by itself for pleasure, but for video game music? Or soundtracks to sub-AAA/hollywood productions that can't afford someone who's won an Oscar/Golden Globe? I don't see a problem with it, and I play an instrument (it's in my lap right now!) and am involved in my local music scene. Samples, VSTis and autotune already killed commercial music, and this isn't going to change anything for people who do it because they love it.
A lot of streaming platform listen minutes has always been this type of filler music. Until now, you could not really disambiguate intentional listening and filler listening. Now you can and the filler listeners wont even notice[1]. A huge chunk of the listen minutes whose value flowed to the artists (from a market perspective, technically this is inefficient), is now not going to go to them. Spotify will prompt optimise based on listening stats and perfect it. TBH until now, many artists were doing stream minutes optimisation of their pop music as well, this is kind of the logical conclusion of that. Human artists will have to stick to intentionally listened music, which is going to be a difficult competitive market. And most listeners actually don't care about this type of music to the same extent, measured in streaming minutes, so the market will be smaller as well. Popularity will end up mattering quite a bit more than it does today I suppose.
Example: This one is easily a replacement for people who listen to linkin park type music passively: https://elevenmusic.io/tracks/6aa1ca95740e34b282c33b0a Well except the vocal only pre-drop part, that was horrendous lyrical flow from the clanker.
Take a hard look at the people who are super into this stuff. Ignore the people who have a direct financial interest in it. Look at the people who are left, who are truly enthusiastic about AI-generated music as users.
In my experience they are inexplicably excited by how easy it is to make something shitty.
Not everyone is a born musician, just like not everyone is a born writer, sprinter or mountain climber. But it takes a certain kind of person to hit the "easy" button and still feel like they accomplished something.
Well, a coworker recently rigged up eleven's api to a coffee machine sensor. It now sings, loudly, an original composition to the effect of "make a new pot you asshole" whenever it gets low. We've gotten country, symphonic metal, southern hip hop, smooth british singing, accusatory broadway musical, 20's-style jazz singer, and more - it's different every time.
While the advisability of this particular project is up for debate, I do think it's something that could only exist with an API like eleven's.
Engineer on ElevenMusic (so discount accordingly). I like to think of the model as an instrument - something you can sit with for hours and get better at. The people who stick around the most treat it that way (they write their own lyrics, upload half finished songs as reference, bring their own voice back from old recordings etc..). For example my dad was in a band in the 80s and stopped writing music and it's fun to see him make it again.
Every time a barrier drops (samplers, synths, autotune, GarageBand, sample packs) this argument gets made and it is partly right. Plenty of what gets made on our platform is complete slop but if your only contribution to a song was a "make a pop song" prompt that's what you deserve. You are right that nobody was ever short of music - but many people are short of a way to make it so we build for them.
Any plans to allow for multiple references? I'm trying to upload a track which has humming (scratch) vocals and a complete backing track to help with vocal ideas. It can do an okay job at recreating the backing track but the vocal idea gets completely lost. Suno is pretty amazing at this use case with just one reference track
Yes, people are asking, have you noticed the huge number of users?
> we were told AI would free up all our time to do!!
You were told you'd do it for your soul, not money, so the AI can't block it. And your specific religion might not even codify that AI assistance kills the soul ("it's just a tool"), so there is no this downside either.
I chose to listen to the blog post instead of just reading it. I don't know how much if it is just the idea of AI-generated music for me, but the listening experience was extremely repulsive.
>ElevenLabs recently announced a multi-year strategic agreement with Universal Music Group (UMG) spanning licensing and product development. This agreement is separate from Music v2.5.
I am more interested in knowing what this will bring in the future. This is bigger than their 2.5 or whatever version.
Copyrights were the limiting factor for these AI music companies. If they made a deal, the AI songs would be even more indistinguishable from human songs. And these music labels will use more AI and ruin music even further.
Side note: a bit funny they launched ”Muse, a conversational co-writer for ElevenMusic” August 27[1] and Facebook launched ”Muse: The World’s First Personal AI Agent” September 8[2]
Not me, but I've been thinking about it a bit lately, and what I believe is this:
the idea that we can have something that so deeply ingrained into my practice as a human just kind of tossed out there easily as if it's no thing at all,
with no real cultural context, no material situation in history, no connection to a place or a time, denuded of anything that would make mark it as art of a time or place, or even of a specific individual person much less of some localized scene, work created without any specific need being filled to be immediately and unconsciously forgotten.
In my life I have come to understand that almost all the things I -like- about music and my practices of it might seem so marginal to the work-in-itself as to be inconsequential:
this band played this song on this day this way because this person heard that guy play it, and then they played it in these clubs for a while, and it was recorded and someone over there liked it and that's why "Mighty Might Bosstones".
Like, for instance,
remembering the Slim Richey chainsaw statue in the Starlight bar in Terrlingua and recalling how he replaced Karen Abrahams in the Jitterbug Vipers and wishing that I'd gone and played that gig for $30 in Austin with her and Richie Bowden when I could have, and then thinking how I'll never get to play with Augie Myer or Jon Inmon either and then understanding that the JV are why Dr Sick of the some dumb throwback band brings coked up New Orleans musicians to a last-Sunday concert at the Kerrville Folk Festival, and knowing that the fact I have played on that stage and stage managed both those bands sutures me into a history and a community far larger that I can fully understand much less put into something intelligible to other folks who haven't stood with a giant family tree of musicians on stages smaller than drum risers.
The idea that you can make "music" totally a-historically, ex nihlo, and some folks would listen to it and not be able to taste the difference or even understand the weight of what they are saying when they say "this is that, this dumb shit is the same as what all yall do".
That's what I hate the most.
It's like they've invented zombies (in the 1932 film sense) and are proud of that instead of horrified, and I find it repulsive.
I sometimes wish I believed in god so I could say if this is the kind of disgust that believers feel when folks are casually sacrilegious.
Currently not getting any kind of response on their UI when attempting to create something. No console messages or network requests are triggered when clicking the "Create" button.
I'll be much more interested when they combine this, ElevenReader, and their soundscapes, into audio dramas on-demand. I'd pay a good $20-30 per month for that.
Same here - the pieces exist & our music model can now do voice + sfx + music in a single generation (5 min limit so these were chained together to form longer pieces).
I'm an engineer on elevenmusic and we are working hard to restore availability (which has been sporadic over the last 10 minutes). We're working very hard behind the scenes to bring it back online.
Then I got the music, which promises Unlimited lossless downloads for Pro tier, whereas the text says only 400 per month! Isn't this false advertising?
Way, way worse than an utter waste of resources and ingenuity. Any musician using this is nothing in my eyes, unless it’s the weirdest, most subversive thing I’ve ever heard. Like maybe there are three or four actually creative uses for this, maybe, but all the rest of it will be a talentless void. Awful.
This is incredible! It definitely is better than Suno/Udio and you have quite a lot of creative control over each aspect - plus being able to download the stems is great!
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Something must have happened here, miscommunication between departments so the blog post authors/owners and whoever made the actual music generation missed some update in-between when they made this and the release. If it's truly that the model chose not to follow passed lyrics/hallucination, and they still released this, I'd be lost for words.
Here is my first attempt: http://rochus-keller.ch/Diverses/Polyphonic_Threshold_1.mp3
And here are some Suno v5 tracks with the same prompt for comparison: https://rochus-keller.ch/?p=1428
All in all, Suno still has better musicality (or at least had in version 5), but the sound quality of elevenmusic is clearly better.
> (d) License to Your Content and NILV. You hereby grant to ElevenLabs a license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, make available, communicate to the public, publicly perform, display, and use your Uploaded Music and Input (including your name, image, likeness, voice rights and other indicia of your persona that may be embodied in your Uploaded Music or Input (collectively, “NILV”)) and your Output, in each case, to provide the Services (including the trust and safety features therein), to promote and improve the Services, and to develop and improve our other services and products. Such license shall be…
I'm not against some AI uses, I use LLMs myself where it makes sense, but music is one of the things that we were told AI would free up all our time to do!!
Example: This one is easily a replacement for people who listen to linkin park type music passively: https://elevenmusic.io/tracks/6aa1ca95740e34b282c33b0a Well except the vocal only pre-drop part, that was horrendous lyrical flow from the clanker.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/EDM/comments/1mq3s5p/just_noticed_t...
In my experience they are inexplicably excited by how easy it is to make something shitty.
Not everyone is a born musician, just like not everyone is a born writer, sprinter or mountain climber. But it takes a certain kind of person to hit the "easy" button and still feel like they accomplished something.
While the advisability of this particular project is up for debate, I do think it's something that could only exist with an API like eleven's.
Every time a barrier drops (samplers, synths, autotune, GarageBand, sample packs) this argument gets made and it is partly right. Plenty of what gets made on our platform is complete slop but if your only contribution to a song was a "make a pop song" prompt that's what you deserve. You are right that nobody was ever short of music - but many people are short of a way to make it so we build for them.
> we were told AI would free up all our time to do!!
You were told you'd do it for your soul, not money, so the AI can't block it. And your specific religion might not even codify that AI assistance kills the soul ("it's just a tool"), so there is no this downside either.
It’s almost like dj but now you’re not just picking tracks of a similar theme , you choose a theme , and the rest of the music bands . Wow .
I am more interested in knowing what this will bring in the future. This is bigger than their 2.5 or whatever version.
Naming is hard!
[1]https://elevenmusic.io/blog/introducing-muse [2]https://about.fb.com/news/2026/09/introducing-muse-personal-...
the idea that we can have something that so deeply ingrained into my practice as a human just kind of tossed out there easily as if it's no thing at all,
with no real cultural context, no material situation in history, no connection to a place or a time, denuded of anything that would make mark it as art of a time or place, or even of a specific individual person much less of some localized scene, work created without any specific need being filled to be immediately and unconsciously forgotten.
In my life I have come to understand that almost all the things I -like- about music and my practices of it might seem so marginal to the work-in-itself as to be inconsequential:
this band played this song on this day this way because this person heard that guy play it, and then they played it in these clubs for a while, and it was recorded and someone over there liked it and that's why "Mighty Might Bosstones".
Like, for instance,
remembering the Slim Richey chainsaw statue in the Starlight bar in Terrlingua and recalling how he replaced Karen Abrahams in the Jitterbug Vipers and wishing that I'd gone and played that gig for $30 in Austin with her and Richie Bowden when I could have, and then thinking how I'll never get to play with Augie Myer or Jon Inmon either and then understanding that the JV are why Dr Sick of the some dumb throwback band brings coked up New Orleans musicians to a last-Sunday concert at the Kerrville Folk Festival, and knowing that the fact I have played on that stage and stage managed both those bands sutures me into a history and a community far larger that I can fully understand much less put into something intelligible to other folks who haven't stood with a giant family tree of musicians on stages smaller than drum risers.
The idea that you can make "music" totally a-historically, ex nihlo, and some folks would listen to it and not be able to taste the difference or even understand the weight of what they are saying when they say "this is that, this dumb shit is the same as what all yall do".
That's what I hate the most.
It's like they've invented zombies (in the 1932 film sense) and are proud of that instead of horrified, and I find it repulsive.
I sometimes wish I believed in god so I could say if this is the kind of disgust that believers feel when folks are casually sacrilegious.
I made some here with our last model: https://elevenmusic.io/artists/elevenmusic-spaces
Then I got the music, which promises Unlimited lossless downloads for Pro tier, whereas the text says only 400 per month! Isn't this false advertising?