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TL;DR?
- You must be 18+

- You must access Dropbox every 6 months (from 12) if you have a free to ensure they don't delete your account

Diff or it didn't happen
100%

It's 2026 and they're handling IT like pariahs of the stone age.

Even they grey beards of the 70s would have worked that out easily.

At the very least it looks like users must now be 18 years of age to use Dropbox.

Probably related to those ill-conceived “why won’t someone think of the children?!” laws.

Also, I think they shortened the deletion window of free accounts to be after 6 consecutive months of non-use.

Looks like the major changes are:

- some stuff about Teams that's mostly only relevant if you're using your work email for a personal account

- minimium age 13 -> 18; add "Dropbox may use and rely on information from third parties, including age signals from app stores, for the purpose of enforcing this restriction."

- free accounts may be terminated after 6 months of no use (previously 12 months)

- removed "If you reside in the EU, the European Commission provides for an online dispute resolution platform, which you can access here: https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/odr." from the dispute resolution process.

That last point is funny... so arbitration agreements are designed to make the process intentionally more difficult. Can't provide too many hints!
I don't think that's the reason. From the linked site:

> The European Online Dispute Resolution (ODR) Platform is discontinued as of 20 July 2025

If you leave that in it's actually worse, since the platform was discontinued. I had to fix all my client's projects to remove this stuff. One of those stillborn ideas of the EU.
Major changes:

1. You must be 18 to use Dropbox. Previously, you had to be 13 if in the United States, or 16 if higher. Dropbox may use information "Dropbox may use and rely on information from third parties, including age signals from app stores, for the purpose of enforcing this restriction."

2. Your account may be terminated if you don't have a Paid account and haven't accessed for 6 months. Previously, it was 12 months.

3. If you have multiple accounts tied to the same email address, and one is banned, the others may also be banned.

4. "Refunds are only issued if required by law." -> "Refunds are only issued in limited circumstances or if required by law."

5. You automatically agree to the new terms if you continue to have an account. Previously, it was only if you continued to use the service.

6. Some terms covering Teams accounts.

> 5. You automatically agree to the new terms if you continue to have an account.

I would really love to see courts throw this BS out.

I agree with you in principle.

It would also potentially invalidate clauses like the one in GPL license too: "this version or any later version" — how can anyone consent to yet-unknown terms?

In this particular case and going after the summary from big85, there's one case of legal compliance (like age restrictions — it applies in appropriate jurisdictions even if the ToS is not updated) or maybe two (banning per-account vs per-owner), some widening of the terms to the benefit of the customer (like refunds being permitted in "special circumstances" on top of "required by law, with only "reductionist" change being about lowering service window for unused free accounts (in some jurisdictions, even this could be about respecting data privacy laws — companies are obligated to remove any data which is not used after a certain time, though I think this is 12 months even under GDPR).

As such, I believe this would not be a good case where you can bring enough light how this type of clause is harming one side to the contract.

> Your account may be terminated if you don't have a Paid account and haven't accessed for 6 months

I hope file sync is treated as "access", otherwise this would make me anxious.

At least they claim they will give 'reasonable advance notification':

> We’ll provide you with reasonable advance notice via the email address associated with your account to remedy the activity that prompted us to contact you and give you the opportunity to export Your Stuff from our Services. If after such notice you fail to take the steps we ask of you, we’ll terminate or suspend your access to the Services.

I wonder if they are actually going to start enforcing this. I’ve been receiving emails that my account is at ~200% capacity for a little over 13 years (just went through my email to double check). I’ve logged into my account a handful of times over the years, but certainly not every 12 months.
I switched to Sync last year. Much cheaper, better quality.
I didn't know about Sync. TIL someone had the guts to start a company named "Sync" in 2011.
Yes, brave name choice. I went to have a look and the home page is nice, well laid out, and has links to documents. Small free tier to put your feet in the shallow end, and a couple of monthly plans, one aimed at individuals and the other at orgs. Perhaps a family plan would have benefits?

Alas no linux support, not even an api to allow the use of some terminal command to get round GUI fragmentation. Searching for 'sync online storage with linux' leads to a recent redit thread and a Mint Linux forum thread.

This person has over 1000 submissions. Going for the quantity-first approach I guess...
What’s a good Dropbox alternative? Especially for Macs. Feels like they spent twenty years just making the Mac client worse.
If you only have ios and mac clients why not icloud?
iCloud Drive is the obvious choice.
Last I've tried iCloud Drive is not preserving file attributes especially if you want to use it cross OS between Mac and Windows. Dropbox does.
Last time I checked, there was no file history, which basically meant it's useless to me.
iCloud Drive does not allow you to recover files if you put them into the trash and empty it by accident. I learned this the hardest of ways.
That seems... reasonable? You have to trash the files and empty the trash before you lose them. Isn't that what the trash is for?
Issue is I accidentally used cmd+delete which deletes items immediately. And I’m so used to how Dropbox does it that it wasn’t my assumption.

Accidentally lost a bunch of data that way, figured I’d spread the word.

I heard you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem
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Use maestral.app on Linux and macOS.

Also bypasses the free Dropbox account's limitations on 3 devices.

Filen
PCloud is another one I like. Been using it for a few years and am happy with it.
Self-host. NextCloud on a moose instance https://mooseos.com/store/nextcloud

1 click install, daily backups, no need to manage anything

Dropbox is 2TB for the same price as your 40GB. Cool idea though.
Yeah, definitely not 1-to-1 comparison as moose has a VM underneath and you can run pretty much anything
9€/m for 40GB? Yeah no, thats a terrible suggestion!

Just get yourself a Hetzner Storage Share for 4.29€/m with nextcloud managed for you and 1TB!

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/

That is a great offer if you're only looking for a nextcloud backup. If you also need an immich instance and some jellyfin, you need another machine.

A single purpose service is always more efficient then a more generilized one

Open source SyncThing
I guess teenagers don't have any need to sync files, eh? Hate to see this gradual erosion of internet access for young people - I'd bet half the notable members of this very site started their career trajectory by learning how to break/fix computers in middle school or before
Hmmmmm today is a very different world compared to when we used the Internet to learn how to code. Now with Ai doing all the coding is learning how to code even happenning anymore?

Also, just talked two friends who work for mid-size companies and last week both of their CEOs told them to just point Ai to their Jira tickets to finish all their tasks. Anyone else hearing their CEOs instruct the same thing?

It is not about age. It is just a way to tie accounts to a real life identity.

It won't be surprising if the requirement comes from some alphabet agency.

Dont they already have the payment information?
Not universally. I've had a free dropbox account for nearly 2 decades, and never attached a payment method
Don't most countries give people their first IDs before 18? Mine does it at 14.
In the U.S., you can get a passport for a baby. In my state, you can get a state ID for your child.
I don't believe IDs are mandatory for children, though? School IDs, maybe, but processing/storing those is going to be a data handling nightmare
Sure, but they could still check the age while also linking the ID.
It’s erosion of closed saas, not the internet. That already broke the hacker environments of yesteryear.
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Amazing Dropbox went from a brilliantly simple service to this stagnating corporate swamp of ooze. Yet another fascinating example of how headcount correlates with quality decline.
The pricing got very complicated, that part is true. On the other hand, service quality didn’t go down. They added many small features which makes things easier, on the other hand.

I use a bunch of additional services they offer. They work well, make me spend less money and save my time (e.g.: send, transcription, advanced sharing controls).

We loved Dropbox and had a family subscription. One of the main reasons we stopped using them (besides it being a US company and Trump threatening declare war to a fellow European NATO ally) was that even though we were paying users, they continuously badgered us with upsells. Using Maestral as a client made things better (at the loss of block-level sync + now unmaintained), but every time I had to log into the web interface I got stupid upsell ads.

I once contacted their customer support about this and their answer was "Oh really? Can you send some examples?" So I sent them screenshots of all the upselling banners, popups, etc. that they showed and I never heard back from them.

It also didn't make sense at all. Why, if I'm using Dropbox for family use, would I upgrade to a business plan?

Dropbox headcount has stayed relative flat since going public… what’s ur point?
curl and ftp never refuse to work, or willfully erase your backup files on their own initiative. Just saying.
Why hasn't anyone created a windows and mac client that git pushes changes to remote after file activities of local computer, and polls remote repo every 1 minute for changes to pull? I'd gladly pay for that. :-)
I don't think that will play well with binary files. Even as small as a PDF of a few pages?
No need for git, syncthing does exactly that (listening to file activity events in selected folders and syncing the change, with twoway sync if so desired) and its free!
Dropbox will be one of the next Bending Spoons acquisitions. Low growth, none of the upsell or product extension things they've done have really worked out, and no-one's idea of what the future looks like.
I don't understand this mentality. Growth must be explosively exponential or things are bad, so company must sell out, close shop and go.

So, Google should sell Google Drive, Box shall close down, PCloud must cease to exist, Mega shall sell itself to a three letter agency a-la Crypto AG, Sugarsync shall vanish, etc...

Yet we are here. These are all stable products chugging along.

That’s the bargain Dropbox made when it took VC and then went public. Public markets don’t price a company purely on today’s cash flow, they price the expected stream of future cash flows. If growth stalls and the attempts to create new growth vectors don’t work, the valuation adjusts accordingly, and at some point an acquisition can become the rational outcome.
I don't think so.

Bending Spoons need "great" deals to go after, such as Airtable, etc. Dropbox has a market cap of ~$8B, and it's not "cheap" compared to revenues, etc.

If Dropbox goes "down" in the next few years, perhaps you will eventually be right.

I've been a happy customer of Tresorit for several years now. Give them a try if you're fed up with Dropbox.

At first I was selective in what folders I synced but after a few months I decided to just sync my entire workspace folder with everything in it.

Incredibly convenient, everything is automatically synced between my desktop and laptop.

If you go this route look into filters, it's not a very advertised feature but works great for excluding build output, venvs and other stuff.

Funny that this is the only Dropbox post I've seen on HN besides infamous references to their launch post. You'd think there would be plenty of interesting improvements to make.

Having been a paid user for the last decade my current experience is just getting error messages on my phone every week that something failed to sync, and that I have to re-enter the app every ~month to disable/enable syncing for my offline files, otherwise it doesn't work. I can't remember any time I've been pleasantly surprised by any change to the service.

This leaves a lot of questions. Why are they raising the age limit? What legislation demands this? Will other services follow? And what if parents give consent? Are users on a family plan now forced to kick off their kids from the joined plan?
Drobpox has an AI backend running on their own clusters. IOW, Dropbox runs their own local models, integrated to their offerings. As their AI offerings get more features, I believe they want to be on the safe side, so they increased the age limit.
Does this mean that young adults that work for companies that use Dropbox, cannot collaborate with others using Dropbox?
Not the first time Dropbox bros kicked kids off a platform.

Mission SF Soccer remembers.

TBH, I'm happy because there's an old account I'm unable to access (email address was closed, recovery didn't work) that still has content I would prefer not to be public anymore. The sooner it can vanish the better.
My Dropbox account was deleted after years of inactivity. While it was definitely on me, and their terms clearly stated that "We reserve the right to" delete the account, I was surprised that no notification was sent. Yes, I checked my emails, nothing.

Needles to say, I never used Dropbox since then.

Trying to download all my 5GB of files from the web client gives me an "Attempted to zip too many files."

I guess the only way to get or export your data is through the desktop client?