It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals. The marginal boost to economic productivity isn’t worth the threat these people pose to national security; the Chinese understand this, so why don’t Americans?
Until recently the US was on the side of international cooperation. It's not only a pity that this has changed but it's sad to see that people are completely forgetting this, as well as seemingly forgetting the incredibly bloody history that we had to endure before embracing the idea of respectful cooperation.
Now China is the grown-up in the room while the US is running around like a maniac in Venezuela, Iran, and wherever else
China who is encroaching on its neighboring countries? Attacking ships in Philippines waters. Yelling at everyone demanding respect while disrespecting everyone around them.
> India and China share a disputed 3,440km (2,100-mile) boundary known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC). This de facto border runs through remote and inaccessible natural paths along the Himalayas, passing through rivers, remote mountains and forest cover. It is ill-defined and its demarcations have remained a source of contention between two neighbours who fought a major war in 1962, in which India suffered a humiliating defeat.
But if we have to reach back to 1951 to show how warmongering China is then it's not very convincing is it? Taiwan is as of today a hypothetical. I've been hearing it's going to happen any day now since the 1990s.
Isn't Cami Clark just the classic sleep-their-way-up type? She didn't end up in the Whitehouse unlike a certain other one but her marriage at 20 was to a 64 year old...
Well, no, because she approached Jeffrey Epstein after his release from serving a prison sentence for child prostitution, and proposed (to him!) that they start up a "porn company" together. There are no "classic" explanations for that specific chapter of her biography.
I don't know what to make of this person's life story; she's certainly an extreme statistical outlier.
"The woman, Alice Huang, also known as Huang Le, is a Chinese citizen who has served as a top executive at Singapore-based Megaspeed, an Nvidia customer and cloud partner that provides AI computing power to Chinese companies including Alibaba, the New York Times reported Thursday."
Do you think that when Jensen talks to Sam Altman or Amodei they don't chat on the phone with Donald Trump?? This is just a smear.
No idea why you're getting down voted here. People are obviously willfully ignorant that a business would not be interested in doing business and making money, they really don't care who the customer is or why they're spending.
> US authorities have been investigating Megaspeed over suspicions that it helped Chinese firms circumvent US export restrictions and smuggle advanced Nvidia chips into China, the Times reported.
This is an apparent nothingburger with zero hint of anything outside plain old business schmoozing on Jensen's part. 'Close relationship' is a really good weasel word (weasel phrase?).
This article has the flavor of a strategic political leak by the Trump administration, likely a prelude to blackmail to get NVidia to do something friendly to the administration. You don't have multiple "people briefed on the surveillance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the findings are drawn from classified intelligence" unless someone high-up in the CIA is greenlighting the leak; that's a crime punishable by decades in prison. And then the whole article has the flavor of "We appreciate your continued support, Jensen, we know you have been a strong ally in public, but if you think of defying us we will hit you with espionage charges and throw you in jail. Look, the groundwork is already in the NYTimes."
Makes me wonder what the next headline is going to be, probably some deal between NVidia and the federal government over export restrictions or something.
So they leaked a story about Nvidia violating export restrictions in order to “blackmail” Nvidia into… obeying export restrictions? Wow, that’s some good old fashioned Trumpian 44D chess right there.
NVIDIA, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Intel... all have offices in Israel and are staffed to the gills with people from the IDF, but sure knowing an "alleged" Chinese spy is the problem. NY Post should be banned from this site btw, it's nothing but tabloid trash (Zionist to boot).
A spy?! Almost half the people working in usa big tech are asian. If it tips over 50% you could call the white people the spies in asian companies located in usa
> Roughly a year ago, Mr. Trump was briefed about the intelligence findings, which have not been previously reported, and chose not to do anything with the information. Mr. Trump has been wary of disrupting Nvidia’s chip sales, which are helping to drive the economy and the stock market, and of further complicating the trading relationship with China.
Has Jensen ever expressed an interest or personality?
To me, he seems the platonic ideal of the immigrant Bay Area tech worker. There's absolutely nothing inside besides the will and drive to succeed at work.
When is this industry going to have an open, honest discussion about how not getting enough trim in your younger years makes you especially vulnerable to these schemes once you acquire power and wealth?
I've seen 80 variations of this same story over the years.
Mostly monogamous marriage is almost certainly a stable equilibrium given that you see it in societies all over the world that had no contact with each other and little in common otherwise. You see monogamous marriage in neolithic europe as well as among native americans.
I suspect that before the invention of agriculture and ownership of land, serial monogamy with occasional fooling around was the most prevalent relationship style. Once people could develop wealth they started worrying about passing it down to their children and that led to more settling down.
I think that is a rather simplistic view of what motivates people.
I would at least like to see some statistics on how much early adulthood behaviour predicts particular later life behaviours before making any conclusions.
Rather than characterising things as 'getting enough trim' perhaps a broader education in dealing with the emotions of life might be more productive.
For each of your 80 stories there are probably a dozen stories of former frat boys and Trump/Epstein types also being in compromising relationships.
I think it has much less to do with any individual's sexual history and much more to do with the rapacious/hypersexual elite culture in USA and elsewhere.
It's not an unreasonable point, but let's not pretend these are naive chumps who crumble at the sight of a woman. In this case, Jensen could have been coordinating with intel agencies to feed disinformation or a honeypot honeypot. Obvious speculation, but clearly he understands the game on the table better than us. Still, it is a tactic as old as time, so I am sure plenty fall victim to some degree
in addition to corporate aircraft, drivers, physicians, security, etc... it's high time boardrooms start provisioning high-performing CEOs with concubines.
I don't really understand the common wisdom that if you get enough when you're young, you won't want it later. It wasn't espionage, but Shannon Sharpe just lost a $100M ESPN media deal last year for chasing young tail, and he has been fit, wealthy, and famously a playboy surrounded by women since his early 20s if not earlier.
From what I have seen the truth is closer to the opposite; that you don't get it out of your system. You get it into your system. I'm afraid that if one truly wants to avoid these scandals you're better off following the Mike Pence playbook, not the Tony Stark one.
Why think about it and draw conclusions from there? That's not how science works. Why should something like sexual proclivities be treated any different? Do we think about how there must be a couple od basic elements and fire is one of them and it's inside the candle and that's how it all works? I mean, just think about it for more than five seconds! How else could a candle work unless the fire is already inside it!
Anyway, here's an actual study about sociosexuality that followed 288 men and those that got married and had kids
showed a decrease in casual sex vs men who didn't.
Given that China is releasing open weight, self-hostable models I'd far rather NVIDIA work with them than with the US and the closed source model providers. I'd rather have a Chinese model running on my own machine with NVIDIA hardware than an Anthropic/OpenAI/X model running in a data center somewhere, for multiple reasons.
Super weird that the only relationship documented in this article is two "dinners with AI executives in Asia." Does that count as a close relationship? I get invited to AI dinners in the Bay Area nonstop, and I understand they are always transactional (people wanting to sell me stuff), not actual relations with people who just happen to enjoy my presence...
Great reporting can come from unlikely sources. If you told anyone from 2013 that TMZ would be a semi-respected publication in 2026, you’d have been laughed out of the room.
TFA also offers no support for the assertion she's a "spy" vs just a source. When most people hear "spy" they think of a "Non-Official Cover" agent (aka NOC in the biz) with training, a false identity and a directed mission. But those are actually extremely rare. The vast majority of 'spying' is not done by 'spies' in that sense. It's basic information gathering from normal people who are already in a job which puts them in casual contact with a person, company or agency of interest.
There are literally thousands of these 'sources' for every NOC on a targeted mission. Many of these sources aren't even paid, they're just predisposed to be friendly to the nation who wants the info and willing to pass along things they see or hear in exchange for a favor or access. Most of what they pass along is irrelevant and useless impressions or chatter but it's all captured and cross-referenced by analysts.
When Jensen makes a two day visit to some Asian country like Singapore, he probably has over a dozen meetings including various local employees, distributors, vendors, govt agencies or media contacts. Nvidia's posture and distribution plans in Asia are of great interest to China, since they're trying to divert a good chunk of those GPUs to China. I have no doubt the Chinese (and other intel agencies) got reports from over half a dozen different sources regarding what happened during Jensen's visit.
Jensen is very smart and has a lot of experience. He knows he's a high-value target and everyone is info gathering on him. Hypothetically, even if he was banging the hot, young distributor rep when visiting Singapore (and I doubt he is), she wouldn't get any actionable intel. Not because she might send an email report to Chinese intelligence but because she'll certainly send a report to her bosses because every Asian distributor is trying to clean competitive info.
Ironically if the press had hounded Mitterand out of office over a sex scandal, France would likely be in far better shape today. More than anyone else he converted France from a nation of builders to a nation of takers.
A couple of questions after reading this article. The Post is not exactly top notch journalism.
First, does her activity actually fit the definition of “espionage”?
* Espionage is the act of secretly gathering confidential, classified, or proprietary information without the owner's permission*
The most important question is what she actually sent and how secret it was. Most companies have levels of secrecy ranging from non public to highly sensitive. For example, schematics of their chip would be concerning.
Also, this seems pretty different from setting up a mic behind a TV.
Second, although the article tries very hard to imply there was some kind of infidelity, adding irrelevant details about Jensen’s family, I don’t know that any of that happened.
Nothing has to be collected. All they need to show is that she has some link to foreign government intelligence and attempted to do anything. Good chance she was an unregistered agent which is a violation.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is just a hit piece - IE, they were looking to paint Nvidia and Jensen in some bad light and found a vague lead. Didn't matter if the evidence isn't substantial. Just publish and smear first.
I disagree, I think this piece is the consequence of the Trump administration’s inaction. It isn’t even really a hit on Jensen:
> Mr. Huang has not received a defensive briefing, warnings sometimes given to Americans who are being targeted by foreign intelligence services, people briefed on the surveillance said.
It’s essentially saying intelligence was gathered that a Chinese asset was close to Jensen and absolutely nothing was done about it.
He's the CEO of a company that is in it's second of 15-ish years 'selling shovel' booms. The guy who's motto has been 'We are 30 days from going out of business' for... about-ish 30 years.
Corporate espionage should have been a concern for a good part of that in his communications.
We have no clue what actually happened. For all we know it's a case of 'he was warned, his internal security groups already knew, and they were feeding useless info the whole time'.
This is how news reporting works. The sources are not willing to speak publicly because they're talking about classified information. The NYT has verified their identity. You have to trust that NYT is right.
I realize that's an unsatisfactory answer for many. But it's how journalism has to work sometimes.
I'll go as far as to say it's a right wing agitation propaganda rag. But the story first appeared in the NY Times, as another commenter has linked here,, so it's possible that the story may be accurate (though undoubtedly the nypost has sensationalized it, as that's their specialty), but both things can be true simultaneously. The NY Post can be trash and this series of events might have really happened.
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No, China is no more a grownup than the US.
https://www.the-independent.com/asia/india/india-china-borde...
> India and China share a disputed 3,440km (2,100-mile) boundary known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC). This de facto border runs through remote and inaccessible natural paths along the Himalayas, passing through rivers, remote mountains and forest cover. It is ill-defined and its demarcations have remained a source of contention between two neighbours who fought a major war in 1962, in which India suffered a humiliating defeat.
(According to the Wall Street Journal at least)
I don't know what to make of this person's life story; she's certainly an extreme statistical outlier.
Do you think that when Jensen talks to Sam Altman or Amodei they don't chat on the phone with Donald Trump?? This is just a smear.
What did Jensen know and when did he know it?
He should be forced to testify in front of congress.
Makes me wonder what the next headline is going to be, probably some deal between NVidia and the federal government over export restrictions or something.
Swalwell was targeted by Fang Fang in 2012 when he was on Dublin, California's city council and running for his first term in the House of Reps.
When he was by the FBI to Fang Fang's ties, he immediately cooperated with the FBI's investigation and did exactly what they requested.
Thinking Swalwell made any mistake whatsoever is a great shibboleth for a Twitterbrained midwit.
EDIT: Looks like link now points to NYT
Lmao
To me, he seems the platonic ideal of the immigrant Bay Area tech worker. There's absolutely nothing inside besides the will and drive to succeed at work.
I've seen 80 variations of this same story over the years.
I would at least like to see some statistics on how much early adulthood behaviour predicts particular later life behaviours before making any conclusions.
Rather than characterising things as 'getting enough trim' perhaps a broader education in dealing with the emotions of life might be more productive.
I think it has much less to do with any individual's sexual history and much more to do with the rapacious/hypersexual elite culture in USA and elsewhere.
From what I have seen the truth is closer to the opposite; that you don't get it out of your system. You get it into your system. I'm afraid that if one truly wants to avoid these scandals you're better off following the Mike Pence playbook, not the Tony Stark one.
Once you open pandoras box, you dont put it back in. It doesnt matter what age.
The whole, they didnt get enough when younger, sounds like a very strange weird explanation that falls flat when you think for more than 5s about it.
Anyway, here's an actual study about sociosexuality that followed 288 men and those that got married and had kids showed a decrease in casual sex vs men who didn't.
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/famconfacpub/267/
I don't sure there is any connection. It is the same things regardless of your popularity in younger years.
However, they have always been remarkably factual. They always verify everything they publish is true.
This was also true and widely known back in 2013.
China bad works for the American audience I suppose.
There are literally thousands of these 'sources' for every NOC on a targeted mission. Many of these sources aren't even paid, they're just predisposed to be friendly to the nation who wants the info and willing to pass along things they see or hear in exchange for a favor or access. Most of what they pass along is irrelevant and useless impressions or chatter but it's all captured and cross-referenced by analysts.
When Jensen makes a two day visit to some Asian country like Singapore, he probably has over a dozen meetings including various local employees, distributors, vendors, govt agencies or media contacts. Nvidia's posture and distribution plans in Asia are of great interest to China, since they're trying to divert a good chunk of those GPUs to China. I have no doubt the Chinese (and other intel agencies) got reports from over half a dozen different sources regarding what happened during Jensen's visit.
Jensen is very smart and has a lot of experience. He knows he's a high-value target and everyone is info gathering on him. Hypothetically, even if he was banging the hot, young distributor rep when visiting Singapore (and I doubt he is), she wouldn't get any actionable intel. Not because she might send an email report to Chinese intelligence but because she'll certainly send a report to her bosses because every Asian distributor is trying to clean competitive info.
On that note, they never worked on french spies as infidelity and sex stuff hold seemingly zero leverage over french men.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Boursicot
First, does her activity actually fit the definition of “espionage”?
* Espionage is the act of secretly gathering confidential, classified, or proprietary information without the owner's permission*
The most important question is what she actually sent and how secret it was. Most companies have levels of secrecy ranging from non public to highly sensitive. For example, schematics of their chip would be concerning.
Also, this seems pretty different from setting up a mic behind a TV.
Second, although the article tries very hard to imply there was some kind of infidelity, adding irrelevant details about Jensen’s family, I don’t know that any of that happened.
> Mr. Huang has not received a defensive briefing, warnings sometimes given to Americans who are being targeted by foreign intelligence services, people briefed on the surveillance said.
It’s essentially saying intelligence was gathered that a Chinese asset was close to Jensen and absolutely nothing was done about it.
And by that, I mean...
He's the CEO of a company that is in it's second of 15-ish years 'selling shovel' booms. The guy who's motto has been 'We are 30 days from going out of business' for... about-ish 30 years.
Corporate espionage should have been a concern for a good part of that in his communications.
We have no clue what actually happened. For all we know it's a case of 'he was warned, his internal security groups already knew, and they were feeding useless info the whole time'.
We have on the record sources saying that he was not warned by the government. Hence me saying this is a story about government failure.
I realize that's an unsatisfactory answer for many. But it's how journalism has to work sometimes.
I'll go as far as to say it's a right wing agitation propaganda rag. But the story first appeared in the NY Times, as another commenter has linked here,, so it's possible that the story may be accurate (though undoubtedly the nypost has sensationalized it, as that's their specialty), but both things can be true simultaneously. The NY Post can be trash and this series of events might have really happened.