Assuming you mean Intel i3 CPUs - these are more than fast enough for plain vanilla Ubuntu (not that there aren't other reasons to want a minimal system).
Even (new) celeron/sempron are probably plenty fast for Ubuntu.
I only want a tiling window manager, a couple of browsers, Sublime Text 3, and access to the internet.
My personal opinion is that i3 rocks, and and that I don't need all of Ubuntu or Xubuntu. I don't even need Rhythmbox or Thunar. Just give me the bare bones of a modern Linux upon which I can install i3 and add just the few things I need.
I probably followed the instructions on that page for using the i3 repos, but it's been long enough that I can't remember doing it or how I did it. But I am using their repos. I don't notice anything explicitly different or better, but i3 isn't one of those things where you're waiting for a new gizmo with anticipation; it just puts up your windows and shuts up about it.
Well, that just means that an regular (x/k)ubuntu isn't necessarily the distro you're looking for. Back in the days when I was using Linux on my main computer, canonical shipped a stripped down version of ubuntu (ubuntu server maybe ?) where you could install just what you need and nothing else (I beleive it came without a window manager for instance).
What you're describing was pretty much my Archlinux setup btw. It was just more convinient for me to build it from an archlinux than a regular ubuntu. You could with an ubuntu though, it'd just be a lot more work I feel like.
EDIT: turns out I'm pretty much explaining you what you already know.... I'll leave my comment up anyway, maybe it'll help someone else.
> My personal opinion is that i3 rocks, and and that I don't need all of Ubuntu or Xubuntu
Getting there with Ubuntu was pretty much "apt-get install" when I made the switch to i3wm. Sure, you end up carrying along hundreds of MB of "junk", but I just didn't find it worth the hassle to trim it down - I have far more junk than that in form of data of my own I could delete...
You would be better off using an Alternate Lubuntu CD or netinstall (mini.iso) Both have a text-based installer with the option to 'Install a command line system', then go from there.
Or any window manager that isn't part of the Gnome/KDE environment, for that matter. Personally, I love the idea of a trimmed down distro that allows you to install whatever packages you want on your own. Package managers make that easy, and I hate the bloat on most standard desktop distros.
I love this for a development VM! I wanted this for a long time: an ubuntu-based linux that doesn't have the non-development application. Thank you for creating this!
I quote: "Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 703MiB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine."
Tangentially, there are still netinstall (mini.iso) and Lubuntu Alternate images (which allow to install a basic command-line system and go from there) with a text-based installer which DO fit on a CD.
That seems reasonable. If more default apps depend on a full python/ruby install to operate, that would certainly have an impact on the overall size of the image. Also, mono is used in many desktop apps now.
If the first thing you're doing is removing packages then you might want to consider a different distro. Arch is a brilliant choice for people who want minimal footprint high performance installations.
Arch goes too far the other way. For example, it doesn't support my wireless card(s) out of the box.
There's nothing particularly power user about preferring to use VLC over Parole, when I install new windows machines I remove windows media player and install VLC.
My ideal os comes with:
A desktop
All the drivers I need
A tool to get extra software (Internet explorer will do for windows, a terminal + apt-get/yum/pacman/pkgng for nixes)
If I wanted to start at a command line and build my way up, I'd definitely pick FreeBSD. Really what I want though is just the desktop. Anything that sets file preferences will probably get uninstalled.
Yeah! I don't want to use one of the super-customizable distros (which force me to have to worry about things like drivers and fonts), but I still like to do a bit of customization. A solid base like this sounds pretty cool.
FYI, this is not available for Trusty Tahr (14.04). I only skimmed to find the link to mini.iso and didn't notice the article omitted references to 14.04. My mistake, but sharing here in hopes of saving someone else some time.
The netinst allows you to download the packages you manually select during the install. Wouldn't this allow you to install a minimal system with only the packages/apps you want? So this ~600MB "core" option is really for people with unreliable internet connections, or otherwise don't want to install via TCP/IP, right? Or, am I missing something?
I tried this last week, but I canceled the install because the mini.iso didn't have NIC drivers for what I was installing it on. I decided to use the official Xubuntu image instead. (I didn't see/remember the community core images.) My hope is the proper images will have the same driver set as the official ones.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 113 ms ] threadEdit: i3 window manager: https://i3wm.org/
Even (new) celeron/sempron are probably plenty fast for Ubuntu.
I only want a tiling window manager, a couple of browsers, Sublime Text 3, and access to the internet.
My personal opinion is that i3 rocks, and and that I don't need all of Ubuntu or Xubuntu. I don't even need Rhythmbox or Thunar. Just give me the bare bones of a modern Linux upon which I can install i3 and add just the few things I need.
I'm on LinuxMint.
sudo apt-get install i3; xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /sessions/Failsafe/Client0_Command -t string -s "i3wm" -t string -s "--replace" -a # logout, login
The problem was then that the Alt key wasn't being recognized, possibly due to VirtualBox.
What you're describing was pretty much my Archlinux setup btw. It was just more convinient for me to build it from an archlinux than a regular ubuntu. You could with an ubuntu though, it'd just be a lot more work I feel like.
EDIT: turns out I'm pretty much explaining you what you already know.... I'll leave my comment up anyway, maybe it'll help someone else.
> My personal opinion is that i3 rocks, and and that I don't need all of Ubuntu or Xubuntu
I'm figuring how to install an awesome WM with MATE, lately. https://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Quickly_Setting_up_Awesome... http://askubuntu.com/questions/616520/how-do-i-set-up-awesom...
> Nope, sorry for the confusion in the name!
this answer is missing a troll face emoticon
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
I quote: "Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 703MiB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine."
I guess it's not a high-priority bug then :)
It had room for "Edutainment", "Emulators", "Toys" and "Development": http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v98/prodmaster/TONS_OF_A...
It would be interesting to see an analysis of the space and how it is used.
http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Starte...
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
Quick explanation: http://askubuntu.com/q/211912
Differences between apt-get and taskel: http://askubuntu.com/a/257172
There's nothing particularly power user about preferring to use VLC over Parole, when I install new windows machines I remove windows media player and install VLC.
My ideal os comes with: A desktop All the drivers I need A tool to get extra software (Internet explorer will do for windows, a terminal + apt-get/yum/pacman/pkgng for nixes)
If I wanted to start at a command line and build my way up, I'd definitely pick FreeBSD. Really what I want though is just the desktop. Anything that sets file preferences will probably get uninstalled.
Ubuntu 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" Ubuntu 14.10 "Utopic Unicorn" Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin"
I already switched to Xfce on Mint/Ubuntu.