SpaceX – Launch Vehicle Failure

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About 3 minutes in the vehicle appeared to explode. At the time it was ~15km downrange, going 1km/s and around 35km up in the atmosphere.

UPDATE: Contingency press conference scheduled for 12:30pm EST- NASA TV said they wouldn't have much to update before then.

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Wait, is the banner on SpaceX's YouTube channel really the terraforming of Mars?

https://www.youtube.com/user/spacexchannel

It clearly is. Damn, that's cool!

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Elon Musk had already started thinking seriously about that phase of the colonization project.

When you walk into their office and go back towards the area where Elon's cubicle is, the same photo of the terraforming transition is blown up on the wall: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44124348109@N01/9848295393

Their company mugs also have a heat sensitive image of Mars that terraforms itself: http://shop.spacex.com/accessories-81/occupy-mars-heat-sensi...

Elon is ::definitely:: already thinking about the colonization phase of the project and has taken steps to highlight it to the company and the public.

Thanks, the livestream.com quality looks much better to me than Youtube's despite the latter offering 1080p.
>The seventh cargo resupply mission of Dragon to the ISS, also carrying the first International Docking Adapter in the trunk of Dragon, for use in Commercial Crew missions.

Are they looking to relight and land today? They usually do for geo or ISS missions.

Yep, and Of Course I Still Love You is in position.

https://igcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.28...

What's usually the timeline and when could we expect the docking?

Edit: Go it...

  Post-Launch Booster Recovery

  Okay, that's the routine stuff dealt with. I know we're all here 
  to see what happens to the first stage! Following stage separation 
  approximately 3 minutes into the launch, the first stage 
  will manoeuvre and orient itself to conduct a post-mission 
  landing test attempt on an autonomous drone ship named 
  "Of Course I Still Love You".
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3b27hk/rspacex_crs7...
Since you edited with the first stage landing info, the expected landing is roughly T+9 min.
That name... it has Very Little Gravitas Indeed.
Gods, it feels good to see the future finally arrive. It's been a long time coming.

Growing up in the 80s, I became quite bitter about the pace of technological change. Sure, personal computers were nifty, but the heroic age of spaceflight was really what the future should've been about. That age had ended with Apollo 17, three years before I was born. Everything since then looked like a shambolic shuffle into a new dark age.

One insane coincidence in the late 80s gave me some remarkable perspective on this. I was taking the train down the coast of California, around the horn of Vandenberg Airforce Base. The train was the only place from which civilians could see the Vandenberg Launch Complex, including the SLC-6 Shuttle launch site[1]. Nasa had spent over $4 Billion preparing it for shuttle launches which would never come. The Challenger disaster had ended all hopes for that; the complex had been mothballed and was already starting to rust. Seeing this made my 13-year-old-self angry. I started ranting to the poor gentleman sitting next to me about how my grandmother hand grown up with horses and buggies yet got to see men walking on the moon; my generation, on the other hand, had seen nothing but decline.

As I ranted, the gentleman slumped in his seat. At the end of my rant, he gave a long sigh and said "tell me about it." Then he introduced himself. He was Deke Slayton, a Mercury and Apollo astronaut[2]. He'd retired from NASA in 1982, frustrated with its bureaucracy, and tried to start a private space-launch company. It hadn't gone well.[3] I wish I could say that our conversation gave me hope for the future, but it didn't.

Later, my hopes were raised by the DC-X[4], then dashed by the subsequent (insanely corrupt) X-33 fiasco, and the failure of Beal Aerospace[5]. Raised again when I stood on the flight line at Mojave and watched SpaceShipOne take its first space shot[6], then dashed again when that program seemed to fly into molasses. Throughout, there was the sense that the future was possible, but by no means inevitable. There was no guarantee that it would arrive in my lifetime.

But now here it is. This time it's real, this time it'll work, and nobody will have to get nailed to anything. I couldn't be happier!

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandenberg_AFB_Space_Launch_Co...

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deke_Slayton

3: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevefrancis/sets/721576293246...

4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X

5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beal_Aerospace

6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceShipOne_flight_15P

Addendum: well, crap. The future is still hard.
Your post was in my mind when I was watching the live stream. Your post was the first thing that I thought of when I realised what had happened.
Ditto, it made the situation so much sadder.
How are their posts that are 4 hours old when OP is only 3 hours old? How does that work?
The key thing now is the reaction to a catastrophic failure. Can't let it grind everything to a halt.
The company I used to work for (EER) bought his company to get the IP to his rocket (Conestoga) and tried to go into private space launches, but the single launch in 1995 was a failure. It ended up getting sold to L-3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conestoga_(rocket)

Elon Musk's 44th birthday today. Crazy way to celebrate that, right: Launching a rocket into space and getting to re-use the rocket.
* possibly getting to re-use the rocket.

Good luck to everyone involved however; very exciting.

Damn now I feel bad for saying that.
Yeah, we all knew the return and landing part is new and uncertain, but I thought they would at least get to try.
Indeed. I was looking forward to the landing. I never thought it wouldn't make it to start with. A sad day but you can always learn things from failures so not a complete waste of effort.
Not reusing that one :(
I love watching as many launches as I can it's great!
A valiant effort! Keep up the good work. Everyone is rooting for your success.
Well, that was an unexpected and uncontrolled structural disintegration.

e: On the upside, happy birthday Elon, I hope you enjoyed your really awesome fireworks!

"Confirmed we have had a non-nominal flight"
"Lock the doors"
Maybe people didn't realize you were referencing the Columbia Shuttle disaster.
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That has to be the most awkward sign-off of the webcast ever.
I almost felt like I heard that tension in the announcer's voice.
Tension? Or upset-ness?
The SpaceX "announcer" is John Insprucker. He is a senior engineer and Falcon 9 Product Director.
Yeah, that was one expensive fireworks display. But I guess, happy birthday Elon.
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did it just blow up?
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Yep... just saw... hate the silence on the stream

Update: Looks like the explosion was triggered by Range Control in response to non nominal flight

Yeah- not much to say but the silence is sad. It looked like it was going well too...
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Hope SpaceX bounces back with another launch. They were hoping to get the landing spot on today, and then this happens. I am feeling for the guys on the floor...
Do you have a source for that? It's really hard to differentiate between some guy on twitter and some guy that happens to work for SpaceX on twitter.
I heard this on the NASA stream... but don't quote me on this
You're quoting yourself here, what do you mean? If you're not supposed to say this then simply don't or do it with a throwaway.
"Don't quote me" means something like, I am not a reliable source and I could be wrong.
Ah, I see. The English Language never ceases to surprise :)
Yeah, that one is not very obvious. Think of it like a warning: "Don't quote me on this, because if you do, you might find yourself repeating incorrect information."

A literal command of "don't quote me because I'm telling you something I shouldn't" would be something like, "Off the record, this is what happened." And yeah, that would be silly to say on the internet.

I would say that the literal aspect is the same no matter how you interpret it. It's just that jacquesm guessed the wrong reason for not quoting. It's still a command.
Heard something similar on the stream just a few minutes ago. Something like: we are trying to correlate the timelines of data from Falcon to the timing of the Range Safety Officer ...(turning on?)... the flight termination system.

Edit: Falcon Launch Control on "We are trying to correlate timelines and compare data with what they were able to see with down range cameras and put together what happened. We stopped receiving data at 2 min 19 sec from the vehicle. It is still not clear exactly what happened and why... At this point we don't have additional information we can provide on NASA Television until the contingency Press Conference, no earlier than 12:30? ET."

Damn, that sucks, but not nearly as much as if it was a random explosion. I believe in this scenario, astronauts would be able to do an emergency separation, getting far away from the lower stage before it was detonated. My biggest worry from this is that human flights will be delayed (justly or unjustly.)
It appears from the video that the Dragon capsule came off intact. Crewed abort probably would've been just fine, which is indeed a relief. After all, that's the point of it.
Definitely not an expert but to me it looked like initial, unexpected explosion/break-up then a second which could have been in response to the first.
The lack of fragmentation from the first event suggests event #2 would have been range control.

23:44

23:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeiBFtkrZEw&t=23m38s

They said in the press conference that it wasn't a commanded event.
Press conference said that range safety didn't command the FTS (flight termination system) and there is no data (yet) that FTS enabled, but that's doesn't mean the on-board FTS didn't activate itself. It certainly looked like a controlled explosion...

Comment from Reddit that may be useful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/3bejxp/spacex_crs7_h...

They said at the press conference that this wasn't the case.
Gone, baby Gone. Too bad... :(
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Was just watching the rocket from my backyard and it looked like it exploded... wow, can't believe that.
I saw two big puffs of smoke and initially thought it was the boosters releasing.
On the video it looked to me like a tank ruptured somewhere in the top half of the rocket, probably the second stage, and set free all the fuel. The rocket kept its course for some time until it suddenly disintegrated.
maybe the rupture was the initial bit of smoke (it looked the larger of the two from my view).
I was impressed with how long the first stage kept going with all that happening up above.
It did looks like it was close to the point of stage separation. But we'll see soon what the SpaceX's engineering analysis is.
There are no solid rocket boosters on Falcon 9.
Falcon Heavy will have boosters, perhaps that's the confusion, unless 'booster' meant 'first stage'.

Nobody said solid.

Did you hear anything?
Awkwards silence on the livestream... RIP Falcon 9. Still happy birthday Elon, I guess ?
Happy birthday Elon! We know you'll do it eventually.
Oh. Crap.

Space really is hard.

Seems like we do ok once we're in space, it's the going in between that's the hard part.
I was wondering what happened. This was my first time watching the live stream so I wasn't sure if that was normal or not.

Edit: They just called it, they had an "anomaly."

End of the live broadcast