I'm not the one downvoting. Several persons downvoted because your argument is non-sensical, because you failed to answer basic question and because you keep making mistakes showing that you have no idea what you are…
> it can easily move to felony with actual punishment also highly dependent on specifics of a given case When it involves weapons, evidence tampering or higher crime, which is clearly not the case here. > Had she not…
> Blame may be shared Which is quite a move from "the onus is on you". > but it really is on me to assess a risk of any given moment Yes. And the situation we are talking about should clearly not be a situation that…
obstruction of duty is a minor offence, so she was doing an action that put her at risk of a level 3 fine. You were saying that the onus is on her for putting herself in a situation where she should expect to be shoot.…
You fail to understand the point. Whatever the specific case is, your argument is that "it's her fault because she did not exercised prudence", and the counter-argument is "in Justice, what you say is simply not true".…
First, you did not answer the main point. The main point is that she did not put herself voluntary in a dangerous situation. The fact that some ICE agents were unhinged and dangerous is not something that a normal…
What do you mean? For what I know, she was at the wrong place at the wrong time, did not do anything voluntarily illegal, and was in a situation where everyone should agree would never have had to degenerate into a…
The way you frame the event is very misleading after reading the article. I know that idiots will argue that "attacking a government building with explosives and committing attempted murder" is "technically correct",…
I don't think the comment you react to is talking about physical limitations (budget, computing power, ...), but scientific methodology policy. It was perfectly fine to work on any crazy ideas you wanted to. But if you…
> This is true, but unrelated to your original claim, that LLM algorithms and agentic algorithms are reducible to, exhaustively go down a list. Well, first, this is not my claim. I'm saying that the behaviour of LLM…
> And I'm saying, that is, in fact, not how they work I don't think you are right (I was ready to give you the benefice of the doubt, but the rest of your comment makes me think I should not trust your judgement). It is…
> Again, nobody claimed that "trying all the possibilities" was the definition of "persistence". The definition of persistence here is, continuing to work towards an end when challenges are encountered. I'm not saying…
> What you're describing here is the exact opposite of persistence. That's the point. It looks like the term "persistence" for these agents is "just be a normal algorithm, just try all the possibilities like any…
I may have not explained very well, but the distinction is that a "persistent person" is more than a person who just do what should be done. A "persistent person" will try again and again where other person would have…
But isn't this approach a bias of anthropomorphism. I can teach a child to just communicate by saying "beep boop", but it does not mean that my electronic machine that randomly does "beep boop" therefore has…
Not sure what you mean with "non-corporeal". In lay term, "Bob is persistent" typically means he completes tasks even when the majority would have abandoned. Nobody called Bob "persistent" because he completed washing…
Interestingly, the transcript of the seahorse emoji thing looks to me to show the ropes, and makes me think more that there is no psychological phenomena at play. The text does not look like a normal "break down" to me,…
I don't think it's a useful framework. LLM don't "get angry", they just have tokens and relationships between tokens conditioned on a given context, all of that the result of training. When they output sentences that…
When you say "in the lay meaning", I tend to understand 'b', but then you say "they're told to complete the task, and they keep going until they have", which correspond more to 'c'. To illustrate better the difference:…
Explaining the reality with this approach may lead to misunderstandings. Especially when it comes to anthropomorphism. I have 2 questions. 1. The text says "the robots were designed to be persistent" and links to an…
> Did you actually look at any of what was being measured? It's like grades and state standardized tests. Did you? Because the meta-analysis is NOT limited to grades and state standardized tests, it also includes some…
> Also the meta-analysis you posted basically just says that a bunch of these studies have methodological flaws and don't really show anything. And those are not accounted in the conclusion that is still that mixed…
Yeah, you googled "articles that say what I want to hear" and you've found some, and did not really understood what they say. Congrats, I will definitively change my mind now. But obviously, you "forgot" the articles…
Again, this is 100% armchair "specialist". If you want to know real expertise, you should _never_ listen to someone who said "I know, I've lived it". Living it does not make you an expert, it make you a biased person…
> I have very deep lived personal experience with being a gifted child and having gifted children. I know what sorts of resources they need. The fact that you are explaining that because you have experienced TWO…
I'm not the one downvoting. Several persons downvoted because your argument is non-sensical, because you failed to answer basic question and because you keep making mistakes showing that you have no idea what you are…
> it can easily move to felony with actual punishment also highly dependent on specifics of a given case When it involves weapons, evidence tampering or higher crime, which is clearly not the case here. > Had she not…
> Blame may be shared Which is quite a move from "the onus is on you". > but it really is on me to assess a risk of any given moment Yes. And the situation we are talking about should clearly not be a situation that…
obstruction of duty is a minor offence, so she was doing an action that put her at risk of a level 3 fine. You were saying that the onus is on her for putting herself in a situation where she should expect to be shoot.…
You fail to understand the point. Whatever the specific case is, your argument is that "it's her fault because she did not exercised prudence", and the counter-argument is "in Justice, what you say is simply not true".…
First, you did not answer the main point. The main point is that she did not put herself voluntary in a dangerous situation. The fact that some ICE agents were unhinged and dangerous is not something that a normal…
What do you mean? For what I know, she was at the wrong place at the wrong time, did not do anything voluntarily illegal, and was in a situation where everyone should agree would never have had to degenerate into a…
The way you frame the event is very misleading after reading the article. I know that idiots will argue that "attacking a government building with explosives and committing attempted murder" is "technically correct",…
I don't think the comment you react to is talking about physical limitations (budget, computing power, ...), but scientific methodology policy. It was perfectly fine to work on any crazy ideas you wanted to. But if you…
> This is true, but unrelated to your original claim, that LLM algorithms and agentic algorithms are reducible to, exhaustively go down a list. Well, first, this is not my claim. I'm saying that the behaviour of LLM…
> And I'm saying, that is, in fact, not how they work I don't think you are right (I was ready to give you the benefice of the doubt, but the rest of your comment makes me think I should not trust your judgement). It is…
> Again, nobody claimed that "trying all the possibilities" was the definition of "persistence". The definition of persistence here is, continuing to work towards an end when challenges are encountered. I'm not saying…
> What you're describing here is the exact opposite of persistence. That's the point. It looks like the term "persistence" for these agents is "just be a normal algorithm, just try all the possibilities like any…
I may have not explained very well, but the distinction is that a "persistent person" is more than a person who just do what should be done. A "persistent person" will try again and again where other person would have…
But isn't this approach a bias of anthropomorphism. I can teach a child to just communicate by saying "beep boop", but it does not mean that my electronic machine that randomly does "beep boop" therefore has…
Not sure what you mean with "non-corporeal". In lay term, "Bob is persistent" typically means he completes tasks even when the majority would have abandoned. Nobody called Bob "persistent" because he completed washing…
Interestingly, the transcript of the seahorse emoji thing looks to me to show the ropes, and makes me think more that there is no psychological phenomena at play. The text does not look like a normal "break down" to me,…
I don't think it's a useful framework. LLM don't "get angry", they just have tokens and relationships between tokens conditioned on a given context, all of that the result of training. When they output sentences that…
When you say "in the lay meaning", I tend to understand 'b', but then you say "they're told to complete the task, and they keep going until they have", which correspond more to 'c'. To illustrate better the difference:…
Explaining the reality with this approach may lead to misunderstandings. Especially when it comes to anthropomorphism. I have 2 questions. 1. The text says "the robots were designed to be persistent" and links to an…
> Did you actually look at any of what was being measured? It's like grades and state standardized tests. Did you? Because the meta-analysis is NOT limited to grades and state standardized tests, it also includes some…
> Also the meta-analysis you posted basically just says that a bunch of these studies have methodological flaws and don't really show anything. And those are not accounted in the conclusion that is still that mixed…
Yeah, you googled "articles that say what I want to hear" and you've found some, and did not really understood what they say. Congrats, I will definitively change my mind now. But obviously, you "forgot" the articles…
Again, this is 100% armchair "specialist". If you want to know real expertise, you should _never_ listen to someone who said "I know, I've lived it". Living it does not make you an expert, it make you a biased person…
> I have very deep lived personal experience with being a gifted child and having gifted children. I know what sorts of resources they need. The fact that you are explaining that because you have experienced TWO…