Horses work, Telegraph works, Gas lamps work, etc.
There’s answer for you there if you’re willing to see it, whether you agree with it or not. So there’s that.
Deal with the threat of open models with this one simple trick.
> LLMs are not like lawnmowers at all. Lawnmowers never break out of your garden and into your neighbor's house and eat their dog Do you work for one of these companies? If not, you have no knowledge of the prompt they…
> Would he say no? And that’s the issue the article is trying to explain.
That doesn’t seem to be worth the effort to astroturf HN. We are not as important in Apple sales volume scale as you think we are.
Apply your analogy all the way through though. When your house is on fire, the last thing that should happen is the firefighter shouting at you that you’re doomed and based on their expertise on fire it’s definitely…
Having in mind the allegations by Apple against OpenAI, I don't find it unthinkable that there could've been some form of misconduct happening there.
> The question is less about whether astra is AGI Actually the question is exactly that, since it's in the marketing copy. Sure there are other questions to be asked but they are not what I was talking about. Nice Motte…
Exhibit A: Here we have someone who's been sold war and inequality as the drivers of progress. Coincidentally, their obedience was deemed fiscally advantageous in order to advance the interests of the members of the 1%…
The AI perhaps wouldn't be such an "imminent threat" if not for wealth inequality, consolidation of power, monopoly, and the opaqueness of it all.
> I'm pretty baffled by the degree of skepticism expressed here in response to some of Jacob's claims. What should we do? Freak out? Maybe this sentiment would be taken more seriously if there was a real call to action…
It seems like that’s the opposite of what happened. They started attacking the problem when they got a wind of a possible solution from certain individuals.
It doesn’t have to come to this. Seems far fetched. If this is a stunt (which I’m not saying it is) the reason could be that he wants to found his own AI company. If I see in a few months that happens, then I’d be more…
Shouldn’t this very capable model they’ve developed be able to identify promising problems? That’s what I’d expect from how the model is being presented and advertised.
Evidently that’s not what’s happening and I don’t think anyone seriously expects that (considering the outcome of hugging face campaign). It’s a marketing technique as old as GTA’s early days and it’s apparently still…
The benefit could be the effect you described. For some to say it’s breakaway intelligence. Aligns with AGI narrative.
But the prompter is supposed to be someone who doesn’t know web dev. That’s their selling point.
For people delirious about AGI, you don’t get to it by redefining it favorably.
> we should wait for more independent vetting Nahh by that time they’re going to release AGI 2.
I find it hard to believe that this is the main motivation for most who contributors to OSS. Do you have a reference, research or poll that corroborate this? You’re vastly overestimating the value of these “fixes” that…
Don’t you feel your conclusion is preceding the reasoning, forming a confirmation bias? Have quick test. In a codebase or PR (assuming you’re a dev) with claude’s signature wordings unmodified, command claude…
> words are being played back to the model in the next turn and thus supporting the model shape its own thoughts and stay on course. Why is that exactly?
Discussing the issues, achieving consensus, making sure the fix fits the existing patterns and actually warrants the change, etc. These are and have always been a challenging part of contributing to open source. Typing…
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Horses work, Telegraph works, Gas lamps work, etc.
There’s answer for you there if you’re willing to see it, whether you agree with it or not. So there’s that.
Deal with the threat of open models with this one simple trick.
> LLMs are not like lawnmowers at all. Lawnmowers never break out of your garden and into your neighbor's house and eat their dog Do you work for one of these companies? If not, you have no knowledge of the prompt they…
> Would he say no? And that’s the issue the article is trying to explain.
That doesn’t seem to be worth the effort to astroturf HN. We are not as important in Apple sales volume scale as you think we are.
Apply your analogy all the way through though. When your house is on fire, the last thing that should happen is the firefighter shouting at you that you’re doomed and based on their expertise on fire it’s definitely…
Having in mind the allegations by Apple against OpenAI, I don't find it unthinkable that there could've been some form of misconduct happening there.
> The question is less about whether astra is AGI Actually the question is exactly that, since it's in the marketing copy. Sure there are other questions to be asked but they are not what I was talking about. Nice Motte…
Exhibit A: Here we have someone who's been sold war and inequality as the drivers of progress. Coincidentally, their obedience was deemed fiscally advantageous in order to advance the interests of the members of the 1%…
The AI perhaps wouldn't be such an "imminent threat" if not for wealth inequality, consolidation of power, monopoly, and the opaqueness of it all.
> I'm pretty baffled by the degree of skepticism expressed here in response to some of Jacob's claims. What should we do? Freak out? Maybe this sentiment would be taken more seriously if there was a real call to action…
It seems like that’s the opposite of what happened. They started attacking the problem when they got a wind of a possible solution from certain individuals.
It doesn’t have to come to this. Seems far fetched. If this is a stunt (which I’m not saying it is) the reason could be that he wants to found his own AI company. If I see in a few months that happens, then I’d be more…
Shouldn’t this very capable model they’ve developed be able to identify promising problems? That’s what I’d expect from how the model is being presented and advertised.
Evidently that’s not what’s happening and I don’t think anyone seriously expects that (considering the outcome of hugging face campaign). It’s a marketing technique as old as GTA’s early days and it’s apparently still…
The benefit could be the effect you described. For some to say it’s breakaway intelligence. Aligns with AGI narrative.
But the prompter is supposed to be someone who doesn’t know web dev. That’s their selling point.
For people delirious about AGI, you don’t get to it by redefining it favorably.
> we should wait for more independent vetting Nahh by that time they’re going to release AGI 2.
I find it hard to believe that this is the main motivation for most who contributors to OSS. Do you have a reference, research or poll that corroborate this? You’re vastly overestimating the value of these “fixes” that…
Don’t you feel your conclusion is preceding the reasoning, forming a confirmation bias? Have quick test. In a codebase or PR (assuming you’re a dev) with claude’s signature wordings unmodified, command claude…
> words are being played back to the model in the next turn and thus supporting the model shape its own thoughts and stay on course. Why is that exactly?
Discussing the issues, achieving consensus, making sure the fix fits the existing patterns and actually warrants the change, etc. These are and have always been a challenging part of contributing to open source. Typing…
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