>I sit in front of the steam shop for an hour almost on a daily basis I'm going to go out on a limb and assert that you're an outlier lol
>Exclusion from society We exclude plenty of people from society, at least in the abstract. Someone who simply acts weird can be excluded from society. There are certainly no law which forces people to include them?…
Well, my perspective is somewhat narrow (I use it primarily for software engineering and pretty technical data engineering work), so it's possible that Argon is well-suited for the work I do but not for other tasks. I…
For what it's worth: Argon is a pretty good model, and this is coming from someone who just sticks with Opus 5.5 mostly across the board. For the current introductory price, it provides an exceptional value. Looks like…
>Federal courts have ruled that humanism qualifies as a religion. As a result, she said, humanists have the same rights as other faith groups under federal law. Hmmm, sounds a bit ripe for exploitation, no? >In his…
>We have to solidify laws protecting anti-AI-ers if that's their choice. Protect them from what, exactly?
Yeah, this is a succinct way to describe a very important dynamic in software engineering that is usually unfamiliar to most inexperienced developers but a central facet of most experienced developers. Software…
Right, so it kind of seems like treating science like a race is the wrong analogy.
You either include all labs which can reasonably produce models which are capable enough to be considered generally on-par with the best available models, in which case there has been way more than 2 frontier labs for a…
>if the frontier models are so good, why even sell them as your primary money maker? First, none of these companies are really claiming that their models are so good that this would be a reasonable expectation. They do…
>If we had better terms for the levels of AI involvement, maybe people would get a little less worked up about it? I think this suggestions lacks an appreciation for why people get worked up about it. Anybody willing to…
For a site focused on technical users, seems like a lot of people in this thread are completely lost at the idea that a single service may offer multiple pieces of software dedicated to specific use-cases. codex:…
>It seems kind of implausible Not at all. Keep in mind that this isn't the same thing as a model being capable of all of a sudden turning malicious and causing havoc on a machine. All it takes is one "secret input token…
>How does it sound now? It sounds logical and sound? As a US citizen, I (a) agree that we shouldn't be allowing government employees to use AI services from adversary foreign governments and (b) that other countries…
The discrepancy you're recognizing is surely due to astroturfing. I know it's an unsavory thing to point out, but it's also very obvious. The US government should not be sending its data to a foreign adversary. Doesn't…
>I think they do not believe that big corporations in the US or Europe would actually use chinese models in their business operations due to security, regulatory and/or business continuity concerns. Correct. And they're…
You are nuts if you think anybody in the audience you're targeting will spend $10 per month on a TODO app that you can literally prompt ChatGPT to build for you and handle on your behalf for $20 per month lol Like, you…
I agree. I remember "getting into" vim back in ~2018 because I was doing enough work on headless machines that having a "proper" text editing experience became a must. It was only through this process did I learn about…
>Wild that they devoted so much effort to an economically completely infeasible model. It's only wild if you ignore Musk's role in this. Not even trying to bash him or anything, but he's a trillionaire. This is the kind…
>On the other, the complexity of everything and the amount of technical capability an individual or small group can wield has never been higher. This, too, has basically always been true at every point in time across…
>A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. I mean, you don't have to be a famed sci-fi writer to understand that this is a great setup for logical contradictions lol…
Seriously. Muse hasn't even been around long enough to determine if it is "sticky" in any meaningful way, let alone in the context of competing against frontier models from competitors. And based on what I'm seeing,…
>... essentially strip mining mathematical discoveries into PR wins for their models, accidentally laying waste to the research field in process. Jeeze, that's an almost impressively charged way of saying "private…
>I am just sayin'. What, exactly, are you just sayin'? Cause I'm having a stroke trying to parse your comment lol
>If it ever gets a serious user base, might easily sell ads or whatever else. It would need to offer some pretty valuable features, otherwise I'd just vibecode the same app but without ads lol. What's funny is that I…
>I sit in front of the steam shop for an hour almost on a daily basis I'm going to go out on a limb and assert that you're an outlier lol
>Exclusion from society We exclude plenty of people from society, at least in the abstract. Someone who simply acts weird can be excluded from society. There are certainly no law which forces people to include them?…
Well, my perspective is somewhat narrow (I use it primarily for software engineering and pretty technical data engineering work), so it's possible that Argon is well-suited for the work I do but not for other tasks. I…
For what it's worth: Argon is a pretty good model, and this is coming from someone who just sticks with Opus 5.5 mostly across the board. For the current introductory price, it provides an exceptional value. Looks like…
>Federal courts have ruled that humanism qualifies as a religion. As a result, she said, humanists have the same rights as other faith groups under federal law. Hmmm, sounds a bit ripe for exploitation, no? >In his…
>We have to solidify laws protecting anti-AI-ers if that's their choice. Protect them from what, exactly?
Yeah, this is a succinct way to describe a very important dynamic in software engineering that is usually unfamiliar to most inexperienced developers but a central facet of most experienced developers. Software…
Right, so it kind of seems like treating science like a race is the wrong analogy.
You either include all labs which can reasonably produce models which are capable enough to be considered generally on-par with the best available models, in which case there has been way more than 2 frontier labs for a…
>if the frontier models are so good, why even sell them as your primary money maker? First, none of these companies are really claiming that their models are so good that this would be a reasonable expectation. They do…
>If we had better terms for the levels of AI involvement, maybe people would get a little less worked up about it? I think this suggestions lacks an appreciation for why people get worked up about it. Anybody willing to…
For a site focused on technical users, seems like a lot of people in this thread are completely lost at the idea that a single service may offer multiple pieces of software dedicated to specific use-cases. codex:…
>It seems kind of implausible Not at all. Keep in mind that this isn't the same thing as a model being capable of all of a sudden turning malicious and causing havoc on a machine. All it takes is one "secret input token…
>How does it sound now? It sounds logical and sound? As a US citizen, I (a) agree that we shouldn't be allowing government employees to use AI services from adversary foreign governments and (b) that other countries…
The discrepancy you're recognizing is surely due to astroturfing. I know it's an unsavory thing to point out, but it's also very obvious. The US government should not be sending its data to a foreign adversary. Doesn't…
>I think they do not believe that big corporations in the US or Europe would actually use chinese models in their business operations due to security, regulatory and/or business continuity concerns. Correct. And they're…
You are nuts if you think anybody in the audience you're targeting will spend $10 per month on a TODO app that you can literally prompt ChatGPT to build for you and handle on your behalf for $20 per month lol Like, you…
I agree. I remember "getting into" vim back in ~2018 because I was doing enough work on headless machines that having a "proper" text editing experience became a must. It was only through this process did I learn about…
>Wild that they devoted so much effort to an economically completely infeasible model. It's only wild if you ignore Musk's role in this. Not even trying to bash him or anything, but he's a trillionaire. This is the kind…
>On the other, the complexity of everything and the amount of technical capability an individual or small group can wield has never been higher. This, too, has basically always been true at every point in time across…
>A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. I mean, you don't have to be a famed sci-fi writer to understand that this is a great setup for logical contradictions lol…
Seriously. Muse hasn't even been around long enough to determine if it is "sticky" in any meaningful way, let alone in the context of competing against frontier models from competitors. And based on what I'm seeing,…
>... essentially strip mining mathematical discoveries into PR wins for their models, accidentally laying waste to the research field in process. Jeeze, that's an almost impressively charged way of saying "private…
>I am just sayin'. What, exactly, are you just sayin'? Cause I'm having a stroke trying to parse your comment lol
>If it ever gets a serious user base, might easily sell ads or whatever else. It would need to offer some pretty valuable features, otherwise I'd just vibecode the same app but without ads lol. What's funny is that I…