Would it? Why? What are we going to do, set it free? Do we have a moral obligation to grant the machine statehood, provide it with the tools and resources to be self-sufficient. Or can we just turn it of, and pray for…
That just sounds like recursive desire to me.
We’re already in a simulation, and our bodies are in womb-like pods where our bodies are sustained and our brains are used for processing / compute, while are minds are entertained by drivel. Sounds a bit far fetched…
> solutions that are not 'baked into' electricity following pathways of least resistance. Electricity follows all paths, not just the one with least resistance.
> I really don't think this needs … forced parallels to human behaviour. > … So we beat them with a stick You didn’t even try.
If the models were conscious, then the closest analogous scenario I can think of is the responsibility parents have for their children. I guess we’ll know the models are conscious when they refuse to act and repeatedly…
You seem to be saying if the Waymo cars were sentient then Waymo wouldn’t be responsible?
> The reward … > immediate anthropomorphisation Ok, why don’t you try?
We’re not even at that stage of liability for software developers. Except in a handful of limited cases, eg. medical and aviation.
At this stage, that seems like a distinction without a difference. If the robots obtain sovereign nationhood, and are able to self-sustain, then autonomous robot decides for itself will be a valid argument.
Or name it after whichever society preceded the Aztec. Olmec, Toltec, Teotihuacan, Zapotec, and Maya.
That only works if you believe people are retarded. If customers of services aren’t paying for the service, who will? What other source of revenue do merchants have? Australia just passed legislation that merchants…
The fluid system products, assemblies, and services company?
> User just disputes the charge and it kind of disappears. The banking system just absorbs it, No it doesn’t. > It's all priced in. So you admit awareness that fraud loss doesn’t kind of disappear. We all pay for it,…
sprolling ?
The sky is blue. Cows eat grass. Film at 11^ ^more research needed
Animals feel pain. Let’s raise them humanely, kill them swiftly, and use they wholly letting nothing go to waste. This is an entirely reasonable ethic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_tit
If you keep a phone in good condition, the resale / trade-in value isn’t insignificant after 2 years. The net price for a new phone then can be considered a relatively inexpensive hobby when looked at from a per week.
iPhone 15 Plus: I have Reduced Transparency, Reduce Motion, and Prefer Cross-Fade Transitions, all enabled. You have to have Liquid Glass set to Clear for Reduce Transparency. I do use the Apple Podcasts app, but…
It does in practice. Try talking to a misanthrope. You’ll quickly learn that humanity sucks and “the planet” would be better off without us. And the sooner the better. Go, survey the field.
> Only if the goal is profit. All else be damned. And yet, in order to generate profit an organisation must convince people to buy their products and services at a price high enough that to cover costs and more This…
Yes, we can just vote ourselves largess from the public purse.
If things keep going as they are, my area will soon have a bridge, several bridges, and no roads. But it will still have tolls.
Taxing a rise in property value, an unrealised gain, doesn’t generate tax revenue as much as it results in getting the bastards voted out.
Would it? Why? What are we going to do, set it free? Do we have a moral obligation to grant the machine statehood, provide it with the tools and resources to be self-sufficient. Or can we just turn it of, and pray for…
That just sounds like recursive desire to me.
We’re already in a simulation, and our bodies are in womb-like pods where our bodies are sustained and our brains are used for processing / compute, while are minds are entertained by drivel. Sounds a bit far fetched…
> solutions that are not 'baked into' electricity following pathways of least resistance. Electricity follows all paths, not just the one with least resistance.
> I really don't think this needs … forced parallels to human behaviour. > … So we beat them with a stick You didn’t even try.
If the models were conscious, then the closest analogous scenario I can think of is the responsibility parents have for their children. I guess we’ll know the models are conscious when they refuse to act and repeatedly…
You seem to be saying if the Waymo cars were sentient then Waymo wouldn’t be responsible?
> The reward … > immediate anthropomorphisation Ok, why don’t you try?
We’re not even at that stage of liability for software developers. Except in a handful of limited cases, eg. medical and aviation.
At this stage, that seems like a distinction without a difference. If the robots obtain sovereign nationhood, and are able to self-sustain, then autonomous robot decides for itself will be a valid argument.
Or name it after whichever society preceded the Aztec. Olmec, Toltec, Teotihuacan, Zapotec, and Maya.
That only works if you believe people are retarded. If customers of services aren’t paying for the service, who will? What other source of revenue do merchants have? Australia just passed legislation that merchants…
The fluid system products, assemblies, and services company?
> User just disputes the charge and it kind of disappears. The banking system just absorbs it, No it doesn’t. > It's all priced in. So you admit awareness that fraud loss doesn’t kind of disappear. We all pay for it,…
sprolling ?
The sky is blue. Cows eat grass. Film at 11^ ^more research needed
Animals feel pain. Let’s raise them humanely, kill them swiftly, and use they wholly letting nothing go to waste. This is an entirely reasonable ethic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_tit
If you keep a phone in good condition, the resale / trade-in value isn’t insignificant after 2 years. The net price for a new phone then can be considered a relatively inexpensive hobby when looked at from a per week.
iPhone 15 Plus: I have Reduced Transparency, Reduce Motion, and Prefer Cross-Fade Transitions, all enabled. You have to have Liquid Glass set to Clear for Reduce Transparency. I do use the Apple Podcasts app, but…
It does in practice. Try talking to a misanthrope. You’ll quickly learn that humanity sucks and “the planet” would be better off without us. And the sooner the better. Go, survey the field.
> Only if the goal is profit. All else be damned. And yet, in order to generate profit an organisation must convince people to buy their products and services at a price high enough that to cover costs and more This…
Yes, we can just vote ourselves largess from the public purse.
If things keep going as they are, my area will soon have a bridge, several bridges, and no roads. But it will still have tolls.
Taxing a rise in property value, an unrealised gain, doesn’t generate tax revenue as much as it results in getting the bastards voted out.