Scheduled maintenance shouldn't have to mean that _everything_ goes down at once.
Interestingly, I was just talking to someone yesterday about how Yehuda is very good at handing off projects. When he doesn't personally finish something he started, it's because he's handed off the work to someone else…
Not yet. It just happened and will need to be post-processed. I'm pretty sure all EmberConf talks will eventually end up online.
Emblem compiles to Handlebars so it will gain all of the benefits of Glimmer. FastBoot is only concerned with the initial render which is done on the server. Glimmer is concerned with updates so it will not directly…
Performance is a relative term. One could just as well argue that if you're really concerned with performance you should just write machine code.
It's pretty cool to see that Ember is still in the same ballpark, especially when you realize that Ember does a ton of stuff that Backbone doesn't do for you :)
Agreed. And I suspect Ember can get closer than that, if not even outdo React in some cases.
To be clear, while we're using Handlebars syntax, the underlying runtime is not the standard handlebars.js, but a custom version for Ember.
I should have added the caveat that there will always be a handful of cases where you do need absolute top performance. However, I do think that for the vast majority of apps we'll end up at a point where performance…
In regards to taking up an entire core, it's updating as fast as it possibly can, it's basically a stress test. In practice, updating this quickly isn't useful, you would want to throttle it for production use. It's…
Some information can be seen at the PR for Glimmer: https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/pull/10501.
It's also worth noting that we're getting to the point where fastest doesn't really matter. Both Ember and React will be fast enough. Performance shouldn't be a deciding factor.
This is only meaningful if Dust has all the other features that Ember templating has.
Ember still uses the Handlebars syntax, but we don't use the standard Handlebars runtime anymore.
You shouldn't be both manually manipulating the DOM _and_ using Handlebars mustaches for the same element. Since there wouldn't be mustaches, Glimmer would ignore these cases. In general, you should only be using jQuery…
In the first case, he was using an `ObjectController` without understanding the special behavior of the `model`/`content` property. In the second case, he used HTML comments to comment out Handlebars code, not realizing…
Sorry to hear that you've been having trouble with Ember. Let me see if I can answer a few questions. 1) Layouts vs. Views vs. Components A good place to start on this is the guides:…
I'm confused. Are you proposing that web apps don't use URLs? If so, this seems pretty antithetical to the very nature of the web. One of the things that often aggravates people about web apps is that the back (and…
I understand the frustration of the author, but it's hard to tell exactly what the source of his issues is. Not enough information is provided in his descriptions to actually understand what is going on. I suspect that…
Whoops, I misread.
You weren't coming to HN to find real discourse were you? :)
Thanks for pointing this out, the comments are set up through Disqus so the problem may be on their end. We'll look into it.
Did you read the whole forum thread? We are planning to address his complaints.
Agreed, more screencasts would be wonderful. Unfortunately, we haven't had time for this yet. It's something we'd love to do if/when time permits.
There are a few Ember screencasts: https://peepcode.com/products/emberjs http://railscasts.com/episodes/408-ember-part-1 http://railscasts.com/episodes/410-ember-part-2 Unfortunately, both cost money at the moment but…
Scheduled maintenance shouldn't have to mean that _everything_ goes down at once.
Interestingly, I was just talking to someone yesterday about how Yehuda is very good at handing off projects. When he doesn't personally finish something he started, it's because he's handed off the work to someone else…
Not yet. It just happened and will need to be post-processed. I'm pretty sure all EmberConf talks will eventually end up online.
Emblem compiles to Handlebars so it will gain all of the benefits of Glimmer. FastBoot is only concerned with the initial render which is done on the server. Glimmer is concerned with updates so it will not directly…
Performance is a relative term. One could just as well argue that if you're really concerned with performance you should just write machine code.
It's pretty cool to see that Ember is still in the same ballpark, especially when you realize that Ember does a ton of stuff that Backbone doesn't do for you :)
Agreed. And I suspect Ember can get closer than that, if not even outdo React in some cases.
To be clear, while we're using Handlebars syntax, the underlying runtime is not the standard handlebars.js, but a custom version for Ember.
I should have added the caveat that there will always be a handful of cases where you do need absolute top performance. However, I do think that for the vast majority of apps we'll end up at a point where performance…
In regards to taking up an entire core, it's updating as fast as it possibly can, it's basically a stress test. In practice, updating this quickly isn't useful, you would want to throttle it for production use. It's…
Some information can be seen at the PR for Glimmer: https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/pull/10501.
It's also worth noting that we're getting to the point where fastest doesn't really matter. Both Ember and React will be fast enough. Performance shouldn't be a deciding factor.
This is only meaningful if Dust has all the other features that Ember templating has.
Ember still uses the Handlebars syntax, but we don't use the standard Handlebars runtime anymore.
You shouldn't be both manually manipulating the DOM _and_ using Handlebars mustaches for the same element. Since there wouldn't be mustaches, Glimmer would ignore these cases. In general, you should only be using jQuery…
In the first case, he was using an `ObjectController` without understanding the special behavior of the `model`/`content` property. In the second case, he used HTML comments to comment out Handlebars code, not realizing…
Sorry to hear that you've been having trouble with Ember. Let me see if I can answer a few questions. 1) Layouts vs. Views vs. Components A good place to start on this is the guides:…
I'm confused. Are you proposing that web apps don't use URLs? If so, this seems pretty antithetical to the very nature of the web. One of the things that often aggravates people about web apps is that the back (and…
I understand the frustration of the author, but it's hard to tell exactly what the source of his issues is. Not enough information is provided in his descriptions to actually understand what is going on. I suspect that…
Whoops, I misread.
You weren't coming to HN to find real discourse were you? :)
Thanks for pointing this out, the comments are set up through Disqus so the problem may be on their end. We'll look into it.
Did you read the whole forum thread? We are planning to address his complaints.
Agreed, more screencasts would be wonderful. Unfortunately, we haven't had time for this yet. It's something we'd love to do if/when time permits.
There are a few Ember screencasts: https://peepcode.com/products/emberjs http://railscasts.com/episodes/408-ember-part-1 http://railscasts.com/episodes/410-ember-part-2 Unfortunately, both cost money at the moment but…