4) energy and materials scarcity and compounding ecological externalities this of course affecting not only the Western regimes but technocratic rule everywhere
I'm not endorsing victimhood or saying that Bangladesh is poor because the US is rich. It was badly phrased if that is how it reads, for that I apologize. I'm saying the US does what it can to keep itself richer than…
Yes, so many.
> This may be true to some extent, but what I dislike about this idea is that to many it implies that human flourishing is impossible without suffering exported elsewhere To some degree this is true, in the sense that…
The life possible in San Francisco is possible in large part because of the entropy it externalizes to "somewhere else", a place many in SF and the US more generally prefer to ignore, and which includes Bangladesh,…
Can you characterize the binary choice in your last sentence in more detail? I don't see how one excludes the other
Strongly agree. Our beginning to grasp how it works even adds to the miracle! But what we're beginning to understand we're also destroying far more rapidly even as we devote more and more effort to digital facsimiles of…
On what grounds do you think it likely that this phenomenon is at all related to consciousness? The latter is hardly understood. We can identify correlates in beings with constitutions very near to ours, which lend…
This also evidences that in this case, it's more developers of handbrake just know their audience rather than a real design failure. Maybe they'd prefer to keep the user base deliberately small?
Fewer every year. If 3I/A is ET flyby, perhaps our progress trading primitive simulacra for biological miracles will satisfy it that we pose no great risk, annihilation being costly and reserved for planets with better…
Way bigger and deeper than that, there was some slack in the energy situation remaining at that point. Not any more.
You don't consider an application that is designed specifically to siphon all the attention it can to be a perverted implementation? Surprise, it's harder for people to self-govern when they are surrounded by mechanisms…
> A chat like this is not a solution though, it is an indicator that our societies have issues Correct, many of which are directly, a skeptic might even argue deliberately, exacerbated by companies like OpenAI. And yet…
> legislation Perhaps more generally phrased as governance Yes, the answer is not some business plan by which some can dodge disaster in an untrustworthy market, the answer is to recognize that this planet is a…
Painting opposition as "sour grapes" is an extraordinarily bad faith take.
"Decentralize it" isn't a bad instinct in many contexts but I am sure you are capable of conjuring a counterexample to every one of the cases you mention with a modicum of effort/imagination.
Apologies, not meant to be smug
The question in your last paragraph is not the only one that matters. Funding the technology at a material loss will not be off the table. Think about why.
> whether they confuse people by accident or design. Both, surely
> And I have no idea when it's going to start nor how to fireproof my investments ! You don't, that's the idea.
It certainly does impact you if nearly everyone else is using them.
It's not only that Linus is atypical, it's also that he is reviewing other people's code, and those people are also highly competent, or they would not be kernel committers. And they all share large amounts of…
Effects like these, those of our tools on ourselves which occur slowly/subtly enough that we hardly notice, underlie a great many of our greatest problems, I think
"This level" presumably being when the accumulation of progress past at last overwhelms us in all its complication?
> I don't really understand yet why people don't see that they are doing this to themselves. Maybe it has something to do with the purveyors of these products - claiming they will take the jobs - designing them to be…
4) energy and materials scarcity and compounding ecological externalities this of course affecting not only the Western regimes but technocratic rule everywhere
I'm not endorsing victimhood or saying that Bangladesh is poor because the US is rich. It was badly phrased if that is how it reads, for that I apologize. I'm saying the US does what it can to keep itself richer than…
Yes, so many.
> This may be true to some extent, but what I dislike about this idea is that to many it implies that human flourishing is impossible without suffering exported elsewhere To some degree this is true, in the sense that…
The life possible in San Francisco is possible in large part because of the entropy it externalizes to "somewhere else", a place many in SF and the US more generally prefer to ignore, and which includes Bangladesh,…
Can you characterize the binary choice in your last sentence in more detail? I don't see how one excludes the other
Strongly agree. Our beginning to grasp how it works even adds to the miracle! But what we're beginning to understand we're also destroying far more rapidly even as we devote more and more effort to digital facsimiles of…
On what grounds do you think it likely that this phenomenon is at all related to consciousness? The latter is hardly understood. We can identify correlates in beings with constitutions very near to ours, which lend…
This also evidences that in this case, it's more developers of handbrake just know their audience rather than a real design failure. Maybe they'd prefer to keep the user base deliberately small?
Fewer every year. If 3I/A is ET flyby, perhaps our progress trading primitive simulacra for biological miracles will satisfy it that we pose no great risk, annihilation being costly and reserved for planets with better…
Way bigger and deeper than that, there was some slack in the energy situation remaining at that point. Not any more.
You don't consider an application that is designed specifically to siphon all the attention it can to be a perverted implementation? Surprise, it's harder for people to self-govern when they are surrounded by mechanisms…
> A chat like this is not a solution though, it is an indicator that our societies have issues Correct, many of which are directly, a skeptic might even argue deliberately, exacerbated by companies like OpenAI. And yet…
> legislation Perhaps more generally phrased as governance Yes, the answer is not some business plan by which some can dodge disaster in an untrustworthy market, the answer is to recognize that this planet is a…
Painting opposition as "sour grapes" is an extraordinarily bad faith take.
"Decentralize it" isn't a bad instinct in many contexts but I am sure you are capable of conjuring a counterexample to every one of the cases you mention with a modicum of effort/imagination.
Apologies, not meant to be smug
The question in your last paragraph is not the only one that matters. Funding the technology at a material loss will not be off the table. Think about why.
> whether they confuse people by accident or design. Both, surely
> And I have no idea when it's going to start nor how to fireproof my investments ! You don't, that's the idea.
It certainly does impact you if nearly everyone else is using them.
It's not only that Linus is atypical, it's also that he is reviewing other people's code, and those people are also highly competent, or they would not be kernel committers. And they all share large amounts of…
Effects like these, those of our tools on ourselves which occur slowly/subtly enough that we hardly notice, underlie a great many of our greatest problems, I think
"This level" presumably being when the accumulation of progress past at last overwhelms us in all its complication?
> I don't really understand yet why people don't see that they are doing this to themselves. Maybe it has something to do with the purveyors of these products - claiming they will take the jobs - designing them to be…