finally, someone who advertises how bad they are, the idea I've had for a while and like to call "reverse advertising"...
I love it...
now, if only I had a team to convert...
A decade or two ago, I heard a Sprite jingle on the radio, which contained the lyrics "We'll say anything because we're getting paid". Depending on your audience, this can actually be effective signalling.
They have several of these landing pages, you can toggle between them by clicking the "I don't get it" button that floats in the bottom right or by clicking the logo.
I was hoping someone was going to post this, my sides are in pain from laughing so hard at this site. It does such an excellent job of highlighting all of the marketing tropes currently trending in SV and tech and I for one absolutely love it.
I'm not going to lie, just from what they have on their several landing pages it looks like a cool project. Bookmarking for future reference and to check if they're still around in 5 years.
Kinda neat hovering the mouse around and watching the little "." move the white part. Unfortunately, they cost me some extra work. I began to realize how many times I have sneezed with the laptop on my lap without cleaning the screen ... I kept seeing dots that weren't there and had to break out the wipes.
Hi! I'm here. Definitely in that camp, and I've just been complaining about it this very evening, you know, instead of doing anything about it.
There's just always a reason not to - if I tidy up I'll be happier and focus better; if I build that desk I've been meaning to first, I'll be more productive; if I cook, food's sorted for a bit; if I get an indoor bicycle trainer I'll be able to take an energising break between work (from home) and my own projects; etc. ad nauseaum. Or perhaps ob nauseam.
They redirect to random landing pages. That will be a nasty Easter egg when you see a serious landing page and you ask somebody to Google it and they get the spoof page.Whats the error message? And do native English speakers associate "fibery" with "healthy"? Don't get me started on fans spinning hard on FF in Ubuntu.
They are not random. If it's your first time at the website, you will see serious page and can see funny one after several deliberate updates (there is a special button for this). So if you just send fibery.io to a new person, he will see something serious for sure.
I'm with you - in a way, goodness, sure looks like they're getting a lot of attention, but like others -- "until I hit the comments on hacker news", I thought it was satire[0].
[0] Actually, I thought it was clever advertising by Atlassian -- and I actually started feeling cynical about the whole thing (I'm not a huge fan of their products but theirs are among the tools we use where I work).
I am evaluating work tracking tools and signed up for this after someone on my team linked to the joke lander and once I figured out it was a real app.
Looks quite promising although no mobile is a tough pill to swallow.
I could go on but just an interesting side thought: people who design these should get a special title - Meta PM? Seems like you have to meet a very high bar of minimum stuff “everyone” has, at about the same price, while still having some degree of Jobs-ian stubbornness because you will NEVER satisfy everyone
I hope not. I see far too many business applications that waste I can't imagine how many person-hours on terrible mobile apps/sites. In some segments, the people who want to use your app on mobile just aren't the people that your business can add value to (not because of their choice of device, but because of what their choice of device indicates about how they plan to use and value your product). Don't spend your time ticking boxes of competitors' features. Specialize.
It isn't. We don't code on an iPhone or tiny screen. Heavy lifting is done on a full sized screen. Make applications that actually work on them first and foremost.
I hope not! Funny thing. When I find myself needing to use JIRA or GitLab or whatever on the go and mobile is my only option, I end up requesting the desktop version on my phone anyway...because the mobile app doesn't do what I need it to do, or if it does it hides the functionality so I never find it.
My experience is that for productivity software that lives in a browser, there's absolutely no point in a mobile version. Just serve up the desktop version and make sure the user can zoom in on the portion they need to interact with, and perform all actions necessary with clicks.
Mobile is actually highly demanded today. Our “friend” company (one owing a lot of contract-locked money to ours) just drowns in complex reports and tries to move everything on iphone, like round pie charts, bar graphs, etc. Their business is too complex to manage on a desktop screen. Right now it requires one of our directors to be present at theirs office full-time, resolving all contract conflicts and accounting errors, but once charts will be done (by me apparently), it will be much easier for them to control the flow of the money and other shit to take profit.
Single data point, but sure it’s frequent. Businesses need a breath of fresh air or something like that, you know. Old methods don’t work.
> it’s too complex to manage on a desktop, so it needs to be on a smaller screen
It’s burdensomely complex on desktop. It’s impossibly complex on mobile. But mobile productivity is irresistible, so the troublesome processes get reworked and refined.
Best satire is reality sometimes. I tried hard here, but many people do not see a problem (both itt* and irl). Old-fashioned business is really over.
* /s-like is not easy to feel in text, I know, but it is not there because the story is real and expressed as it is. That seems ubiquitous, as I hear more and more demand. Also, this entire subthread may be > 80% real-life satire, can’t tell for sure.
Sure, mobile is in high demand today, but lots of people do stuff on mobile that is sub-optimal in terms of workflow. By "sub-optimal" I mean it really isn't designed to be done properly on mobile yet. I think this is what the parent comment was getting at...
I have a 25 year old nephew. He literally attempts to do everything on his iphone. I keep telling him I have a handful of decent mid range gamer tower's collecting dust, take one so you can actually do normal stuff on it when you need to write a form letter, or save some documents or play games on it?
This is a legitimate issue. There are people who grow up never owning a laptop or desktop. I don't care how good mobile gets or speech-to-text, writing clean documentation, code, and using a keyboard/mouse will not be replaced anytime soon for high productivity work.
I've been holding my breath waiting for mobile, with its impossibly small tiny inhumane little box, to give way to the next big, and hopefully literally bigger, thing. It hasn't happened yet and I'm starting to think it won't. Maybe Dynamicland will save us? One can dream, but I doubt it.
And it's a mistake, IMHO. Eases the erasure between work/private life by enabling the phone/tablet as another work tool. And divests resources from a better desktop experience.
I predicted this 1 year ago, despite the nay-sayers. The way things are going (and you can call me crazy) but I truly believe the internet is going to change the way we do business.
I agree - but there's no native Windows app. I don't want to have to shift through a dozen tabs in Chrome to find one for Fibery, I want to just click an icon on my desktop. I also want Desktop-specific features like Right-click.
I know a neat trick. Install a different browser and use it for just that. Pick the extensions and bookmarks, configure the home page then enjoy having nothing else inthere.
You know... I know a guy who has several different Google Chromes installed on his Mac. Google Chrome, Google Chrome (2), Google Chrome (3), etc. (He has an intellectual disability. This kind of thing happens.) I guess you could have as many as you wanted and name them anything you wanted, right? It's like taking your favorite web apps and Electron-izing them.
I worked for a company who had "Mobile First!" in their top 4 or 5 "product statements". We had two mobile devs. Both employed for < 6 months, one of which was basically fresh out of university.
OTOH - I never lug laptops around if I can avoid it - even for work meetings nowadays with things like Dex or USB C video cables, you can just project from the phone. Also since I can get to my emails, messenger, conferencing software and files from cloud storage on my mobile, I can say leave to attend my child's school performance in middle of the workday and still get work done during the commute (public transport or cab/ride-sharing) or run some necessary errand or make a presentation on my way to a meeting. Sophisticated apps becoming available on mobile has freed me from having to be chained to my workdesk, find more time for my personal life or risk bad posture by working with a laptop on my lap during commute etc.
Lots of companies in this business make reasonably easy to use mobile interfaces - so if some company like this chooses not to support mobile, it's a non-starter for me.
Okay I'm usually annoyed by these things, but seeing pg's picture... and then thinking "Oh, hmm, YC-funded huh"... then seeing Marc Anderseen's picture... then... seen a lot of other pictures, and then seeing "Inspired by investors."
Although I find the page funny, I find the HN title rather clickbaity. The HN rules explicitly discourage editorializing this way. Isn’t there a better title?
You're most likely mistaken. Clickbait is not just about attracting attention, it also needs to be misleading. So while your complaint passes 1 test for clickbait it fails the other. Please be more thoughtful before posting unfounded meta comments, the HN rules explicitly discourage low-value content that doesn't contribute substantially to the discussion.
At some point, the amount of people who have the curiosity to click any of the links probably outweighs the poor traffic if it was just like "we made a new tracker".
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https://fibery.io
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https://fibery.io/anxiety
https://fibery.io/build
https://fibery.io/freedom
https://fibery.io/connect
https://fibery.io/anxiety
It appears to round-robin on page load of https://fibery.io/
https://fibery.io/
I'm not going to lie, just from what they have on their several landing pages it looks like a cool project. Bookmarking for future reference and to check if they're still around in 5 years.
Found this one particularly charming. First time I've ever been pleasantly surprised by a mouse-over-background-effect.
Kinda neat hovering the mouse around and watching the little "." move the white part. Unfortunately, they cost me some extra work. I began to realize how many times I have sneezed with the laptop on my lap without cleaning the screen ... I kept seeing dots that weren't there and had to break out the wipes.
There's just always a reason not to - if I tidy up I'll be happier and focus better; if I build that desk I've been meaning to first, I'll be more productive; if I cook, food's sorted for a bit; if I get an indoor bicycle trainer I'll be able to take an energising break between work (from home) and my own projects; etc. ad nauseaum. Or perhaps ob nauseam.
This should come with a trigger warning.
> Try.
> Suffer.
> Quit.
This is a real product, but marketed by Seinfeld's script writer?
I mean parts of the real product are what I want / build from sphinx spare parts - and I cannot work out now if those features are worthwhile or dumb.
I am very confused
Check out https://fibery.io/freedom, https://fibery.io/connect, and https://fibery.io/build
[0] Actually, I thought it was clever advertising by Atlassian -- and I actually started feeling cynical about the whole thing (I'm not a huge fan of their products but theirs are among the tools we use where I work).
Looks quite promising although no mobile is a tough pill to swallow.
I could go on but just an interesting side thought: people who design these should get a special title - Meta PM? Seems like you have to meet a very high bar of minimum stuff “everyone” has, at about the same price, while still having some degree of Jobs-ian stubbornness because you will NEVER satisfy everyone
Phones are just for consumers and commuters, workers need desktops.
My experience is that for productivity software that lives in a browser, there's absolutely no point in a mobile version. Just serve up the desktop version and make sure the user can zoom in on the portion they need to interact with, and perform all actions necessary with clicks.
Single data point, but sure it’s frequent. Businesses need a breath of fresh air or something like that, you know. Old methods don’t work.
It’s burdensomely complex on desktop. It’s impossibly complex on mobile. But mobile productivity is irresistible, so the troublesome processes get reworked and refined.
* /s-like is not easy to feel in text, I know, but it is not there because the story is real and expressed as it is. That seems ubiquitous, as I hear more and more demand. Also, this entire subthread may be > 80% real-life satire, can’t tell for sure.
I have a 25 year old nephew. He literally attempts to do everything on his iphone. I keep telling him I have a handful of decent mid range gamer tower's collecting dust, take one so you can actually do normal stuff on it when you need to write a form letter, or save some documents or play games on it?
He always just tells me, "Nope, I'm good."
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Looks very promising, even a kindergarten resident may run a business with that. Should suggest it at the next hangout as our main development cycle.
And it's a mistake, IMHO. Eases the erasure between work/private life by enabling the phone/tablet as another work tool. And divests resources from a better desktop experience.
I predicted this 1 year ago, despite the nay-sayers. The way things are going (and you can call me crazy) but I truly believe the internet is going to change the way we do business.
"but I truly believe the internet is going to change the way we do business."
It does exactly what you are talking about but with only one copy of Chrome.
Lots of companies in this business make reasonably easy to use mobile interfaces - so if some company like this chooses not to support mobile, it's a non-starter for me.
Wonderful job. Stellar.
* "Yet Another Collaboration Tool" or
* "fibery.io/anxiety"
But that really doesn't convey the content very well.
For reference, the original title was: “A brutally honest landing page.”
Their intent is to get you to convert, but instead of giving the usual flowery bullshit, they make you laugh.
Fine, I'll try it.
I think they've hit that point.
This page could be worse at conversion but wins by going viral.
I'm not sure what to think, especially considering this is a legitimate product.
Maybe a bit too much? The entire SaaS industry will have to come up with new, better BS to sell now!