Domains around here are amazingly creative. It's an important part of the package, and if it delivers a surprise and a chuckle like this all the better.
> In 2018 Google open-sourced the Quickdraw data set. “The world's largest doodling data set”. The set consists of 345 categories and over 15 million drawings. For obvious reasons the data set was missing a few specific categories that people enjoy drawing.
> Do Not Draw a Penis functions as an agent to collect inappropriate doodles from people who are not willing to stay within the moral guidelines set by our social network providers.
This is similar to how there are emoji for eyes, hands, feet, hearts, anatomical hearts, lungs, ears, etc.
But not a single emoji about genitals. Not even boobs.
I think I can see your interpretation, but others seem to have read it the way I did and decided not to believe me, so I'm not sure where it falls. Just tried to insert a happy comment into the chain. Oh well :/
A workplace where people only want to work instead of being comfortable enough to make new connections (of any kind) is a bad workplace. You should be able to make new friends, increase your network, and have a good time collaborating. I feel sorry for anyone who is in such an environment, especially when they are being approached constantly in bad ways on top of it (let alone harassed). So many things have gone wrong then. The workplace is still a workplace, not a dating machine, so people need to adjust their behaviors to the environment. Most people can manage to do this.
> The workplace is still a workplace, not a dating machine, so people need to adjust their behaviors to the environment. Most people can manage to do this.
Presently, women can expect mistreatment in their workspace. This has an unbroken reality for generations.
While women are living with that reality, this very minute, it's not clear that workplace friendships are in any meaningful danger.
I am not sure it's worth reading into what there are and aren't emojis of. There is an emoji of the Tokyo Tower, but not one of the Eiffel Tower. It isn't because the Tokyo Tower is more important than the Eiffel Tower, it's because the set is based on a random collection of pictures that Japanese cell phone carriers created over the years. (e = picture, moji = letter, that's where the word came from. A "false friend" with emoticon, interestingly.)
When creating this collection, they missed a lot of stuff. It was never intended to be a complete set of all symbols that a human might need. Some guy at some phone company just made them. The attempts to add a handful of new characters with each new Unicode version don't improve much.
People seem to be using the eggplant emoji as a standin for a penis. It gets the message across, apparently.
> The love hotel or heart hospital emoji depicts a building with both a pink heart and on some platforms the letter H emblazoned on the front. It is mostly used in reference to hospitals and health as well as to vacation resorts.
> A love hotel is a hotel that can be hired by the hour instead of as accommodation for the evening. Sometimes mistaken for a get well soon emoji due to the similarity in appearance to the hospital.
I was stung when the exhibit in the Tokyo Tower of other famous towers of the world didn’t have the Space Needle, but had other, shorter buildings for scale.
It is iconic but a little unfair to the rest of the world to exclude their iconic places from Unicode. If Tokyu (it's a pun; 109 => 10 = too, 9 = kyuu) gets an emoji, why not McDonalds, Burger King, Bank of America, Google, etc.
It would be nice if we could scale Unicode and let everyone have their own emoji, but we can't scale it. Think about the volumes of text that have been written over whether the gun emoji should be a handgun or a squirt gun. Now repeat that for every notable place and company in the world... and it's just not something humanity can achieve.
What we need is extensible unicode. Some way of marking up documents to say "here is the URL that defines these characters", and then people could install the "New York City emoji pack" and be able to use the Empire State Building or Grand Central Terminal in addition to Shibuya 109 or Tokyo Tower. I guess HTML is that markup language, and it turns out that you can put whatever images in the text you want. It was probably a mistake to standardize Softbank's picture SMS crap, but here we are.
That reasoning would be valid if Unicode wasn’t adding new emoji from scratch every years. They do yet they don’t add few anatomical parts that are every important concern in most human lives.
Isn't that just covered by any of the various sad emojis when someone tells you something like that? Compassion/sympathy can be viewed as a contextualized version of sadness.
I have a friend who uses the sad emoji when I say I’m not feeling good. It kind of makes me feel like I’m making her feel sad by telling her. It would be nice if there was emoji of two people embracing or something.
It's inevitable, there is no need to feel guilty about it.
It's kind of an extreme form of vegetarianism if somebody doesn't show suffering because he fears that others would suffer from compassion. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Whoever suffers with you doesn't mind the suffering.
You probably are making her feel sad when you tell her. That's how sympathy and empathy work, it's feeling sorrow or pity for someone's misfortune (sympathy), or feeling a pain similar to theirs (empathy). The whole point of telling your friends and loved ones is so you feel slightly better at their slight expense. Do it with enough friends, and you might feel significantly better, but individually they are all only slightly worse. That's part of the implicit job description of being a friend, being there to help in that way.
If I knew a friend purposefully didn't share that with me for my sake, I would be a little offended if I viewed them as a good friend, as obviously they didn't view me as a good enough friend to let me help in that way.
I wouldn't let that hug fool you either. In real life if you tell someone your problem and it makes them want to hug you, that hug is probably preceded by a frown in reality as well.
Well there are eggplants, peaches and melons of course, but outside of emoji, there is also unicode for egyptian hieroglyphs breast (U+13091 U+13092 𓂑 𓂒) and phallus (U+130B9 and U+130BA 𓂹 𓂺)
Gasp! I just learned the phallus heiroglyphs are missing from the fonts on my windows box! Even U+130B8 𓂸 which isn't even a penis, it's just a somewhat phallic finger.
If a specific Unicode symbol adds actual clarity or meaning in some context, I would not expect it to be discouraged. I didn't mean my adjectives as a generalization of unicode graphics, but the opposite: a specification of circumstances.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'it'. Are you saying that a discussion of the discussion may not cause a decline a community's culture, but could indicate such a decline?
do i now.. you have more comments in this thread about the discussion than the topic. that is offtopic spam. here's an idea. if you have nothing to say on topic, and want to discuss discussion, start a thread about discussions. crazy that people on a thread about intel want to read intel comments.
The 'croquet' is a folded cloth, but might just be there to signify an 's' sound -- in a hieroglyph dictionary [1] it says "lead" or "guide", `seshem`, maybe because the penis on its own can mean bull or donkey, so maybe referring to animals that must be lead, just a guess. Anyway its used at the front of a few names here referring to a leaders of one kind or another.
I've got a card game website like jackbox where you can draw your avatar. The amount of penises people draw is surprisingly pretty low. We've got a gallery page showing all of the avatars drawn to date here:
>This is similar to how there are emoji for eyes, hands, feet, hearts, anatomical hearts, lungs, ears, etc. But not a single emoji about genitals. Not even boobs.
In this era of global communication, I think the Protestant mores may be less important, relatively, than they once were.
Edit: US based companies appear to me to at least as concerned with new markets than existing markers. In some cases, China and the middle east are the regions which motivate 'puritanical' discretion, not the US.
Yeah, but they who make the software/social platforms also makes the decisions, and those are usually US companies. So even here in Europe we're imposed with US-based morals ("Oh, some nudity in a post photo! Bad! Censored, what would the advertisers say"), whereas in our own culture, left to its own devices, we could not care less about such things...
Isn't this the era of the scale down of globalism though? (Trump, Brexit, US-China trade war, etc)
Maybe not protestant directly these days, but American puritanism is very much still very much alive and influencing technology. I doubt Facebook bans people for posting even slight nudity even in private groups just because of other countries.
I was thinking of the same. Providing it as a service for digital boards given so many schools are operating online now. There would be many people drawing dicks.
if anyone wants to do this - email is in the profile.
It seem to be playing a bunch of mp3 assets, so the voices are pre-recorded. Not sure if those mp3 are generated with a text to speech software or not though.
I think that article seems to miss the point, to be honest. There's no need to conflate furries with LGBT people: even if they were they were all hetrosexual hating on them would still not be OK, like any other kind of discrimination based on personal preference.
Except that dog whistles are not always dog whistles (there are people who dislike furries but are generally positive towards the LGBT community), and in this case the dog whistle in itself is hate towards a group of people.
What kind of weird conflation is this? Maybe you mean anti-zoophilia? That seems more comparable at least. I think that hits more on the problem people have with it.
Next thing I know I'm gonna be hearing if you're anti-loli/shota you're anti-LGBT.
The term "dog whistle" needs to be banned on the grounds of it being a memetic hazard. It's a perfect tool for shutting down any meaningful conversation by accusing other side of being deceitful, by conjuring up some hated group that the speaker is supposedly sending secret signals to, instead of actually meaning what they said. It's active intellectual dishonesty in distilled form.
As for the article, I feel it's complete bullshit - in Frankfurt's sense[0]. It says things that may or may not be sometimes true, but the point is to use the LGBT+ communities as a human shield to defend the furry fandom.
(EDIT: parent deleted their comment, but - for the sake of preserving context - they linked to an article titled "If You Hate Furries, You’re Anti-LGBT".)
Of course I started by drawing a penis, and the voice told me off and erased it. Then I started drawing a rabbit, and to my surprise the voice recognized the rabbit with me just completing the ears, and commented "nice rabbit". I had to add a penis to the rabbit and was a bit disappointed the system didn't recognise that little addition.
I drew Spongebob with a bow tie and the voice told me, "nice owl."
I'm not sure if I was more disappointed at my drawing being so bad that the AI couldn't figure it out, or that it missed a blatant opportunity to say, "nice hooters you go there."
I drew a person and it just said a bunch of stuff about freedom of expression and started erasing it. Then I started just drawing loops and it said I was drawing a hurricane.
That’s true in that they only use white meat from the chicken (which is a super set of breast meat). They also add a ton of synthetic fats and a just a dab (hopefully) of a highly toxic petroleum product that’s mostly banned outside the US:
> FDA considers the addition of MSG to foods to be “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS). Although many people identify themselves as sensitive to MSG, in studies with such individuals given MSG or a placebo, scientists have not been able to consistently trigger reactions.
Additionally, there's a heading, "Those McNuggets Contain Sodium Aluminum Phosphate Too", followed by "Key word here is "aluminum." You know, the silvery metallic element you use to line your oven rack before baking or roasting?"
This is about as relevant as pointing out that table salt is made from a metal that catches fire when added to water, plus a WWI poison gas.
Took a similar approach. Got yelled at when I drew one too. But funny enough a stick figure holding a penis resulted in "free expression is paramount".
Kind of amusing, but if you draw an anatomically correct penis, like how it would look on a sculpture, it doesn't detect it. It only seems to detect the caricature or pornographic varieties.
I spent the evening drawing dozens upon dozens of cocks, and the machine didn't object to any of them. I don't know what this says about my artistic skills.
That reminds me of a few years ago when a robot was the governor of California. I always wondered, If you heard a robot speaking German, how would you know it was a robot? Hmm?
> "I always wondered, If you heard a robot speaking German, how would you know it was a robot? Hmm?"
Did you know that in German speaking countries we never hear Arnolds original voice?
He is dubbed by a German actor in all of his movies. So it remains a mystery...
For all the Austrians in the thread: Yes, I know he is Austrian an technically his accent is Austrian.
For me this practice led a strange moment where a Girl in the krimi Wolf (or Wulf? Or could be Kommissar Rex but I think it was the daughter of Wolf himself), listened to an audio tape of a robbery and the voice never matched any of the suspects... Then she recognized some actor (Danny de Vito perhaps, it was 20 years ago at least?) and I was like wut? Danny deVito does not speak German, let alone like that. But then I learned you indeed have one actor doing the life time of an English speak actor :)
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[ 4.3 ms ] story [ 284 ms ] threadThe voice prompts were a little annoying. Are you supposed to try to draw a penis to make it say something?
...but the title said do not draw "a" penis. It did not say "don't draw muliple penises"...
Story checks out?
(Warning, NSFW): https://imgur.com/UqabKL8 https://imgur.com/6pEtsPU
It definitely leaned into it.
I genuinely laughed out loud when I read it :P
Since Moniker made the dataset open on GitHub you're free to try your luck! Above link is a pretty good implementation.
> Do Not Draw a Penis functions as an agent to collect inappropriate doodles from people who are not willing to stay within the moral guidelines set by our social network providers.
This is similar to how there are emoji for eyes, hands, feet, hearts, anatomical hearts, lungs, ears, etc.
But not a single emoji about genitals. Not even boobs.
The 4th married a student he met while giving a guest lecture and then asked on a date in the parking lot afterward.
The 5th and 6th were dating their spouses before founding their companies.
The 7th and 8th were over 100 years ago so the history is too hard for me to track.
We were in separate departments and hierarchy was not an issue. We've been together so long for love, nothing else...
Or prevent employees from being harassed who just want to work w/o getting hit on for the bazillionth time.
Presently, women can expect mistreatment in their workspace. This has an unbroken reality for generations.
While women are living with that reality, this very minute, it's not clear that workplace friendships are in any meaningful danger.
Yes, because none of the things on that list have ever been sexualized before.
Nope, none of them.
When creating this collection, they missed a lot of stuff. It was never intended to be a complete set of all symbols that a human might need. Some guy at some phone company just made them. The attempts to add a handful of new characters with each new Unicode version don't improve much.
People seem to be using the eggplant emoji as a standin for a penis. It gets the message across, apparently.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/emoji/love-hotel/
> The love hotel or heart hospital emoji depicts a building with both a pink heart and on some platforms the letter H emblazoned on the front. It is mostly used in reference to hospitals and health as well as to vacation resorts.
https://emojipedia.org/love-hotel/
> A love hotel is a hotel that can be hired by the hour instead of as accommodation for the evening. Sometimes mistaken for a get well soon emoji due to the similarity in appearance to the hospital.
That's debatable.
I'll observe tangentially that the Chinese term is 表情, "emotion indicator".
I’m still sad Shibuya 109 was removed from Unicode, that place is iconic.
It would be nice if we could scale Unicode and let everyone have their own emoji, but we can't scale it. Think about the volumes of text that have been written over whether the gun emoji should be a handgun or a squirt gun. Now repeat that for every notable place and company in the world... and it's just not something humanity can achieve.
What we need is extensible unicode. Some way of marking up documents to say "here is the URL that defines these characters", and then people could install the "New York City emoji pack" and be able to use the Empire State Building or Grand Central Terminal in addition to Shibuya 109 or Tokyo Tower. I guess HTML is that markup language, and it turns out that you can put whatever images in the text you want. It was probably a mistake to standardize Softbank's picture SMS crap, but here we are.
I'd say the closest thing we have to a logo for everyone is in the Private Use Area plane, https://fontawesome.io
https://emojipedia.org/hugging-face/
The last thing you need when not feeling well is causing more suffering.
It's kind of an extreme form of vegetarianism if somebody doesn't show suffering because he fears that others would suffer from compassion. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Whoever suffers with you doesn't mind the suffering.
If I knew a friend purposefully didn't share that with me for my sake, I would be a little offended if I viewed them as a good friend, as obviously they didn't view me as a good enough friend to let me help in that way.
I wouldn't let that hug fool you either. In real life if you tell someone your problem and it makes them want to hug you, that hug is probably preceded by a frown in reality as well.
Gasp! I just learned the phallus heiroglyphs are missing from the fonts on my windows box! Even U+130B8 𓂸 which isn't even a penis, it's just a somewhat phallic finger.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Breast_(hierogly...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Phallus_(hierogl...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Hieroglyphs_(Unicode_...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs
https://twitter.com/linguopunk/status/1062616416602480642
There should be more discussion about the discussion, as discussion about the discussion shapes the future.
[1] https://books.google.com/books?id=-VMEputo798C&lpg=PA1210&ot... egyptian&pg=PA699#v=onepage&q=leader&f=false
Hmm, but it does looks like a whole penis and scrotum in my browser (firefox on mac).
http://those.codes/gallery
So, basically protestant puritanism?
Edit: US based companies appear to me to at least as concerned with new markets than existing markers. In some cases, China and the middle east are the regions which motivate 'puritanical' discretion, not the US.
Isn't this the era of the scale down of globalism though? (Trump, Brexit, US-China trade war, etc)
Here's a good start for your customer base.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5zywd/meet-dick-run-clai...
if anyone wants to do this - email is in the profile.
The Internet was a mistake.
:p But yeah, I agree the prompts are irritating. I was confused as to the 'objective', to be honest.
Next thing I know I'm gonna be hearing if you're anti-loli/shota you're anti-LGBT.
As for the article, I feel it's complete bullshit - in Frankfurt's sense[0]. It says things that may or may not be sometimes true, but the point is to use the LGBT+ communities as a human shield to defend the furry fandom.
(EDIT: parent deleted their comment, but - for the sake of preserving context - they linked to an article titled "If You Hate Furries, You’re Anti-LGBT".)
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[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit#Harry_Frankfurt's_con...
On the other hand, I agree with you that it is most often used to make false allegations, short circuit reasoning, and shut down discussions.
I think the solution lies in advocating for skepticism and a decent standard of evidence, not abandoning the term. Maybe I'm being naive.
I'm not sure if I was more disappointed at my drawing being so bad that the AI couldn't figure it out, or that it missed a blatant opportunity to say, "nice hooters you go there."
Does this mean my drawing is already logged and studied?
Edit: come to think of it, there’s probably chicken penis in it, too
https://www.livestrong.com/article/1006054-whats-really-insi...
It raises concerns about MSG consumption; however, from https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/questions-... :
> FDA considers the addition of MSG to foods to be “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS). Although many people identify themselves as sensitive to MSG, in studies with such individuals given MSG or a placebo, scientists have not been able to consistently trigger reactions.
Additionally, there's a heading, "Those McNuggets Contain Sodium Aluminum Phosphate Too", followed by "Key word here is "aluminum." You know, the silvery metallic element you use to line your oven rack before baking or roasting?"
This is about as relevant as pointing out that table salt is made from a metal that catches fire when added to water, plus a WWI poison gas.
It just appreciates your dedication to Pokemon fanart.
The names they come up with are precious.
I drew multiple penises and it didn't erase, praised them.
- https://ibb.co/pft7WZP
- https://postimg.cc/DJs4QVCp
Broken! How would I live without a neural network stopping me from being immoral?
You mean it said, "wow that's kinda small?"
How is it look like? I tried drawing ╰⋃╯ and it seem to detect it.
Kilroy was here.
https://hanziyuan.net/#%E5%BF%83
Did you know that in German speaking countries we never hear Arnolds original voice? He is dubbed by a German actor in all of his movies. So it remains a mystery...
For all the Austrians in the thread: Yes, I know he is Austrian an technically his accent is Austrian.
Thank you for the daily reminder of the dystopia we presently live in, AI researchers and developers. I for one, welcome our AI overlords.
You’ve been warned. (Use headphones)