Because it's generally recognized that calling something gay is funny and a way to insult it, at least here in America. Is that not the case in other places? I've heard at least some of it in south and central america, though it tends to be taken more personally there than in
According to WHOIS, google.gay was registered on February 11th. (Rights-holders are allowed to get in early through the sunrise process to prevent exactly the kind of squatting you're hypothesizing, though not typically this early.)
The commonly in informal speech used phrases "that's so gay" or "that person is gay" together with the recommendation of using it as subdomain led me to the clue that the intended use case is to "joke about" or "blame" people more than using it of a way to broadcast someones sexuality to the public
Ironically I saw it more as profiting from folks who would have such as a domain as a showing of pride, but i am fortunate enough to work in an environment where people are comfortable enough to do that sort of thing.
As a temporary placeholder, I suggest either putting a big <h1>Yes</h1>, or maybe have it be <h1>No</h1> dependent on an RNG. In the same vein as http://arethebritsatitagain.com/
I think you should transfer the domain to a gay rights org or similar because this type of domain squatting is obnoxious. I mean, you didn't even have a plan for the domain, just registered it for the novelty.
You don't have a voice that's why you're asking here. So someone gave you a good suggestion and you shit on it. You should let it expire or give it to a group who actually wants to do something with it.
This comment is the type of censorship-by-emotion thoughtlessness that makes people not want to support an advocacy group. There are a million other domain name options gay rights orgs can choose from. Use some creativity and come up with your own.
I was going to say “and a name which is neither”, but I didn’t realise the atomic bomb dropping superfortress Enola Gay was named for the pilot’s mother.
Sometimes people will say "I'm having a gay ol' time" to mean "I'm having a good time" with a bit of a subversive tint to it, since they know that everyone knows that gay to mean happy is completely outdated. The vast majority of the time it means homosexual, even for women.
They will file a trademark claim against you under ICANN UDRP[1]. These are arbitrated so they’re cheap to file and are very quick to resolve (compared to courts).
>The use of .gay for anti-LGBTQ content or to malign or harm LGBTQ individuals or groups is strictly prohibited and can result in immediate server-hold. Prohibited behavior includes harassment, threats, and hate speech. For the complete policy, see: https://toplevel.design/policy
The quality of discussion on HN is generally quite low these days. But it's even worse on topics that touch on issues of social justice or relate to persecuted minority groups. Too many commenters here appear to be sorely lacking in empathy.
Would you say BLM bandits and looters are lacking in empathy when they are destroying small business? Or is that fine because some 160 years ago some black dude in Africa sold his countrymen into slavery?
> Would you say BLM bandits and looters are lacking in empathy when they are destroying small business?
You mean, the boogaloo bandits and looters? Because as much as people keep talking about BLM, the ones I see charged with actual personal and property violence in and around the protests are associated with the boogaloo movement and other right-wing (white-wing?) groups.
> Or is that fine because some 160 years ago some black dude in Africa sold his countrymen into slavery?
There's nothing stupider I've heard in quite a long time — and with Trump in office and his statements getting constant visibility because of that it's saying a lot — than trying to pretend white people had nothing to do with the institutionalization of slavery and racist policy more generally in America, and that it was all a product of some “black dude in Africa”.
HN is intended for technology news and discussions. Allowing social justice, and identity politics to take over has diluted its usefulness. Empathy has nothing to do with it, it's more like commenters appear frustrated over the constant non-technology issues.
The particular themes that show up have changed, of course, but that's because of macro trends in society at large. HN can't expect to be immune from those.
These days this is gauged by the level of social media outrage, this is what brings 'problems' to the attention of decision-makers, and I suspect that this rule will mostly be used as a response to that unless the domain name itself is obviously disparaging.
Firstly, the company overseeing the tld gets to make its own rules. For example, you'd have to go through Verisign at some point if you wanted a .com domain.
Second, the only things encapsulated by the term LGBTQ are sexual orientation and gender identity, two innately connected concepts. People can add as many letters to the acronym as they want but it doesn't change anything about the movement or the group as a whole.
The point of the "more letters" is probably not what you think, but rather what if the entity in charge decides to add a new one (say, X) but it turns out the L, the B and the T now feel alienated by the X? Or, conversely, what if they decide not to include some new group (say, P)? It just seems rather nebulous and down to the whims of some mysterious entity with unclear motives.
There is no "entity in charge" of the LGBT acronym, no central authority approving, adding or removing letters, or any particular concern over "alienation" from adding or removing letters. It's a cultural idiom, not an ISO standard.
Regarding its "nebulous" nature and "motives," quoting from Wikipedia[0]:
The initialism, as well as some of its common variants, have been adopted
into the mainstream as an umbrella term for use when labeling topics
pertaining to sexuality and gender identity.
The initialism LGBT is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and
gender identity-based cultures.
Note that, while the quote mentions "LGBT" specifically that description also applies to the "common variants" also described, including LGBTQ, LGBTQIA, and others mentioned elsewhere in the article. I only point that out because one of your flagged comments mentions how alienated and confused you are by "the whole gay thing," so I wanted to be as clear as possible.
And if you're instead talking about the registrar, they're not a mysterious entity, and their motives are clearly spelled out on their policy page[1].
I still don't understand what exactly your concern is. The TLD doesn't even contain any elements of the LGBT acronym, yet you seem deeply concerned about them altering it willy nilly and this having some widespread negative effect on the gay community.
This despite going through the unnecessary effort of making an entire, completely off topic top level comment announcing how confused and alienated you were by the gay community and how you wish they would just stop being so visible so you didn't have to think about gay sex all the time.
I mean, I'm sure the gay community appreciates your concern and apologizes for the inconvenience, but it seems like you're trying very hard to start a tempest in teacup without even any tea to stir. Don't worry, the gays will be fine.
Sorry for diverting the topic of your comment, but I wish this comment to be visible... (Before thinking that I am an anti-homosexual, read my entire comment, as well as before give me a downvote, write the part where I was wrong and try to refute it with a well-founded argument)
I am not against homosexuality as long as homosexuals are the minority and do not cause harm, but the normalization of homosexuality is something that simply is not going to happen unless most of the planet turns homosexual (and puts our very survival at risk).
I am in favor of respect for homosexual people as well as respect for any other person...
I am in favor that psychological damage should be imputed (insulting someone on the street saying "gay!" Does not count as psychological damage, because otherwise, someone yelling at me "small penis!" on the street would also fall into the category of "psychological damage")...
I am against the arguments (used by most of the LGBT community) to claim that homosexuality is something "normal", are not supported by scientific studies.
(the largest study conducted (that I am aware of) on 500,000 homosexual people, reveals that, although their genetics are similar, there is no relationship between "homosexual genetics" and homosexual behavior:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6456/eaat7693)
Some of the LGBT community goals that I was able to research are:
1. Normalize homosexuality (to avoid the "psychological damage" mentioned above)
2. Legally defend homosexuals who receive psychological or physical harm (I already mentioned my position above)
3. Allow gay marriage (falls into the same category of "normalizing homosexuality" from point 1)
I do not know more objectives, if someone can tell me (or affirm if those are all the points) I would appreciate it.
Enforcement of this will be ... interesting. Is labeling someone gay considered hate speech? Would buying 'famous person'.gay and having it display the word 'yes' be considered defamation?
.gay sounds like a great way to champion gay rights for a given place or brand. I hope it will become a typical pattern and actually do some good in the world.
This opens the flood gates for TLDs for every community under the sun (as long as it is PC, of course). There is gold at the end of the rainbow... But really this trend of multiplying TLDs ad infinitum has been going on for years because it's free money.
Thinking that HN would be better than <insert any bad behavior here> is a bit too hopeful of an assumption. Everyone is prone to bad / ignorant behavior. HN users being no exception.
I disagree. Some communities are actually much better than others on a variety of issues. I mistakenly thought that this was an issue HN would have been better and more mature on too, but I'm learning I was wrong about that.
But compare your average 8chan poster to your average HN poster and you'll see that for sure not all online communities are the same.
I for sure never thought that all HN posters were free of hate/discrimination, I just thought they were better than we're seeing here. But I was proven wrong in that.
Except that being critical of homosexuality does not mean that someone is "homophobic" any more than someone critical of capitalism is "capitalism-phobic" or socialism as "socio-phobic" or whatever.
What about monogamous gay men then? There are plenty of them. You should be more supportive of them than a straight single person who has more than one sexual partner. But you aren't, for some reason. You're specifically railing against gay people rather than unsafe promiscuity. Interesting ...
I actually think there's a clear explanation for this: HN is much larger than it seems. There are millions of users. Every subgroup/tendency is going to be represented in a population sample that big, except for utterly obscure ones.
Which subgroups/tendencies show up in the comments is therefore more a question of the particular thread: the title, the topic, and the early comments. If it seems like "HN would be better than $X", that's only because we mostly manage to avoid the stimuli that produce $X responses.
Many in the LGBT community feel that the acronym does not accurately capture their identity. LGBTQIA+ is the currently acceptable acronym to use, so you can see how the use of .lgbt would be "harmful". Also, you can't have a + symbol in a TLD, which would also be considered "harmful" should it ever be up for implementation.
All in all, the use of gTLD names to reinforce identity is stupid. .com and .org mean company and organization. It's the words before those letters that define the type of company or organization you are, that's where your identity is supposed to lie.
I feel really out of touch and alienated when it comes to this whole gay thing. I used to think I was progressive because I never have and never will care what people do to their own bodies, including whatever kind of sex they want to have, as long as nobody is being harmed involuntarily.
But now it seems that's not what is expected. Instead, you are expected to know and care about what sex people like to have. I just don't get it. Keep it to yourself. Why is it not OK to just not care about other people's private lives any more?
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Will they sue me for registering it?
> make a fortune from selling subdomains
> Use it to make fun of them
Cool.
Everyone is a victim, huh?
I don't know what to put on it, but I would like to host a FAQ or something for people who are questioning their sexuality and make it v wholesome.
person-name.areyou.gay ?
How did your even find out about it? Do squatters have a newsletter on new domain sales or something?
http://whyareyou.gay http://whosaysim.gay http://youare.gay
And have them play the appropriate clips from that interview, then maybe redirect to the next one.
https://youtu.be/_GGCVNoGs0M?t=71
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_the_Century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay
There is a trope of retired Colonel writing to the Times bemoaning the of gay in its new form. <beat> in the 1960's
[1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/help/dndr/udrp-en
But why stop there? Might as well make things clear with sub-domains.
Bob@white.muslim.palistinian.overfourty.bald.fat.gay
Example: ah.what.a.world.of.love.was@her.feet (Keats)
That could take the whole concept of vanity domains to a whole new level!
>The use of .gay for anti-LGBTQ content or to malign or harm LGBTQ individuals or groups is strictly prohibited and can result in immediate server-hold. Prohibited behavior includes harassment, threats, and hate speech. For the complete policy, see: https://toplevel.design/policy
People love “peaceful” protest because it can be ignored.
You mean, the boogaloo bandits and looters? Because as much as people keep talking about BLM, the ones I see charged with actual personal and property violence in and around the protests are associated with the boogaloo movement and other right-wing (white-wing?) groups.
> Or is that fine because some 160 years ago some black dude in Africa sold his countrymen into slavery?
There's nothing stupider I've heard in quite a long time — and with Trump in office and his statements getting constant visibility because of that it's saying a lot — than trying to pretend white people had nothing to do with the institutionalization of slavery and racist policy more generally in America, and that it was all a product of some “black dude in Africa”.
HN's approach hasn't changed. If you want to read about what that approach is, https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... has lots of explanations.
The particular themes that show up have changed, of course, but that's because of macro trends in society at large. HN can't expect to be immune from those.
There is no "entity in charge" of the LGBT acronym, no central authority approving, adding or removing letters, or any particular concern over "alienation" from adding or removing letters. It's a cultural idiom, not an ISO standard.
Regarding its "nebulous" nature and "motives," quoting from Wikipedia[0]:
Note that, while the quote mentions "LGBT" specifically that description also applies to the "common variants" also described, including LGBTQ, LGBTQIA, and others mentioned elsewhere in the article. I only point that out because one of your flagged comments mentions how alienated and confused you are by "the whole gay thing," so I wanted to be as clear as possible.And if you're instead talking about the registrar, they're not a mysterious entity, and their motives are clearly spelled out on their policy page[1].
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT
[1]https://toplevel.design/policy
This despite going through the unnecessary effort of making an entire, completely off topic top level comment announcing how confused and alienated you were by the gay community and how you wish they would just stop being so visible so you didn't have to think about gay sex all the time.
I mean, I'm sure the gay community appreciates your concern and apologizes for the inconvenience, but it seems like you're trying very hard to start a tempest in teacup without even any tea to stir. Don't worry, the gays will be fine.
Now relax and enjoy some Scissor Sisters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHv0jW4p_xA
Going out of your way to offend me. Nice. "Tolerant".
I am not against homosexuality as long as homosexuals are the minority and do not cause harm, but the normalization of homosexuality is something that simply is not going to happen unless most of the planet turns homosexual (and puts our very survival at risk).
I am in favor of respect for homosexual people as well as respect for any other person...
I am in favor that psychological damage should be imputed (insulting someone on the street saying "gay!" Does not count as psychological damage, because otherwise, someone yelling at me "small penis!" on the street would also fall into the category of "psychological damage")...
I am against the arguments (used by most of the LGBT community) to claim that homosexuality is something "normal", are not supported by scientific studies. (the largest study conducted (that I am aware of) on 500,000 homosexual people, reveals that, although their genetics are similar, there is no relationship between "homosexual genetics" and homosexual behavior: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6456/eaat7693)
Some of the LGBT community goals that I was able to research are:
1. Normalize homosexuality (to avoid the "psychological damage" mentioned above)
2. Legally defend homosexuals who receive psychological or physical harm (I already mentioned my position above)
3. Allow gay marriage (falls into the same category of "normalizing homosexuality" from point 1)
I do not know more objectives, if someone can tell me (or affirm if those are all the points) I would appreciate it.
https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/richard-simmons-transgende...
The juvenile bigotry of HN strikes yet again. So much for substantive commentary.
But compare your average 8chan poster to your average HN poster and you'll see that for sure not all online communities are the same.
But that does not mean all HN posters are free of being hateful/discriminating against certain groups of people. Be it by accident or willfully.
Which subgroups/tendencies show up in the comments is therefore more a question of the particular thread: the title, the topic, and the early comments. If it seems like "HN would be better than $X", that's only because we mostly manage to avoid the stimuli that produce $X responses.
I'd say they just picked the most generic thing that they thought would make the most money.
All in all, the use of gTLD names to reinforce identity is stupid. .com and .org mean company and organization. It's the words before those letters that define the type of company or organization you are, that's where your identity is supposed to lie.
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/6795/legal-issues-of...
That's primarily what I was looking for clarification on. I have no personal malice against Apple, it was simply the first example that came to mind.
But now it seems that's not what is expected. Instead, you are expected to know and care about what sex people like to have. I just don't get it. Keep it to yourself. Why is it not OK to just not care about other people's private lives any more?
It is amazing how people claim to have some insight other people just don't get, while they fight dirty and want to shut up other people.