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Oh, the things I'd give for an LTS version of Mojave...
Same here. Most things still work well for me, so my plan is to stick with Mojave until I get an M2 MacBook Air or similar next year.
High Sierra for me, since it's the latest that would've been able to run any recent NVIDIA GPUs (assuming NVIDIA stayed dedicated to releasing Web Drivers).
The lack of Nvidia support is a major bummer. My KDE desktop at home is configured to look identical to Mojave (albeit with a different color palette and a dock integrated with the menubar), just so I can pretend like I'm living my dream...
Me too. I'm still running Mojave on my 2014 iMac 5k!
Me three. And I can't jump ship to Apple's arm chips until they permit x86 virtualisation/emulation sensibly.
How stable is Monterey for those that have been using it?

Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I think I'll probably wait again to let 3rd-party apps catch up.

I've kind of indirect experience: my girlfriend is an iOS developer, and has been using it on her only Mac for a while.

In the beginning it was awful for her. A lot of failures. However, after a couple of months it became quite stable, and she stopped complaining. The only thing that was kind of a nightmare was Xcode.

I'm updating it, and if I were you, I'd update right away too. There are many improvements.

What improvements in your girlfriend's daily workflow would she say are most notable, did she mention?
Performance-wise is much better. Animations are smooth, and even AirPlay seems to work better.

Safari is also slightly better, although she dislikes the new way it organizes tabs.

That said, the thing she told me she liked the most, feature-wise related to her daily workflow, is the new Shortcuts app.

Have been using since June and haven't ran into any bugs/issues that prevents me from doing work. Unlike previous macOS betas were often there was at least one or two that would break things.
Been better than Big Sur so far for me, on 16". Have had temperature issues with Big Sur, resulting in decreased perf due to clocking down (even with TG Pro). Now consistently 5-10 degrees cooler and less fan noise. Using "Intel Power gadget" to see the CPU frequency.

EDIT: I did not install it until the RC.

Oh interesting, I'll keep an eye out on temperature under Big Sur. If I see it getting bad that's an easy reason to upgrade.
I had the same experience. I installed the RC and it has been working surprisingly smoothly on my intel macbook pro (15’’ 2018)
That's exactly what I do each autumn: Update to the macOS version from autumn last year.

So far I was fine with it though of course sometimes it's annoying to get the latest XCode (and iOS sdk) version for development, so I have to resort to a VM from time to time.

Helpful website: https://xcodereleases.com/

If it is your work machine than you probably shouldn't upgrade right away, give it a week or two (esp. if you work with old/outdated dependencies or packages). For personal machines I would be less cautious.
It's been pretty good, although it still has some strange bugs, but those might be a me problem. Namely, Mission Control crashes on me about 15 times a day. I have to 'killall Dock' to bring it back. Also, using Cmd-Space to launch apps is janky -- if I type say Saf, it will say "Safari.app" for about .7 seconds and then the autocomplete goes away. So I have to enter in those .7 seconds.

Other than those two things, it's been pretty solid lately.

SharePlay to Mac is utterly broken, see my other comment.

Other than that, it seems more stable and faster than Big Sur, and that's without a clean install. Notes used to take 4 bounces to open on M1, now opens instantly. Haven't seen any crashing. No broken features that aren't brand new. I've only found one bug: Safari reopens private windows even if you turn that off. But no problem if you don't use Safari.

The beta was terrible, up to memory leaks in applications in the latest release candidate. As a new user I under-estimated the amount of irritating bugs they would ship. I sure hope the release is better.
I've been using it since a few betas in on all my devices, with zero issues. Anecdata and my work is mostly Chrome(/ium) and Android Studio.
> Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina.

I intended to do the same this morning and literally witnessed the "Upgrade Now" change from Big Sur to Monterey as I was about to click it. Took me a while to find the appropriate link for Big Sur in the Mac App Store.

11.6.1 (the latest Big Sur) was out this morning, so you may have to check for updates again.
is CSAM scanning included?
Yes. If you use iCloud Photo Library then CSAM is scanned server-side.

Same it has always been and no different to every other service.

I am referring to the on device flavor - if it does not apply to macOS that is great.
The server-side version is strictly less private.
Only if the client-side scanning includes end-to-end encryption, which was never part of the deal. It was a possible future feature. Also, only if the-client side scanning only scans images being uploaded to iCloud and not literally everything.

Also any kind of content scanning is always strictly worse than no scanning at all.

The proposal was of course to check only images being uploaded to iCloud.
Nope - not client-side, but server-side, it's been there for, like, half a decade.
Untill os source code is closed you can't be Shure that they're not do scanning.
Why would they do it in secret? It's a "feature" they really want to use as a PR opportunity. They just messed up the first announcement.
One thing that was slightly confusing in the initial announcement was that it was said to be released on a day when no OS update was happening[0]. I've been unable to find details of how the rollout was supposed to happen, but if no OS update was needed the code would have had to already be deployed in a previous update before it was officially disclosed by Apple, wouldn't it? I don't know of any sources that show it was present and if so whether it has been verified that it was removed, but if such sources exist I would appreciate references.

EDIT: This announcement from Apple says it was to be included in an iOS 15 update when ready [1] so unlikely it was just dormant in some previous update.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28068741 [1]: https://www.apple.com/child-safety/

Note that Apple never included macOS in the initial announcement. They just included it for the Siri changes, and possibly the Messages changes.
after a quick re-read I see what you are saying, it initially seemed like Monterrey was included with the on-device scanning but good news if not.
Funny that they used a very clunky looking Windows laptop and a pretty dated looking Android phone to show off Facetime.
I get that you want to show your own products in their best light, but this is just petty and beneath them.
The macOS Finder still displays Windows machines on the network as CRT monitors showing the BSOD I believe. I’m not in front of my Mac now so can’t check.
This comes from the company that still shows non-Mac PCs in the network as CRT monitors, showing a blue screen of death.
Only if you have no sense of humor :).

Reminds me of how hugely offended some people were that the icon for a Windows PC in Mac OS X’s network browser was a blue screened monitor.

It's just annoying when they don't have a sense of humor about their products but have a negative sense of humor about other's.
I can be not offended and still feel it to be petty.
I found it absolutely hilarious when it was done about 15 years ago. That was when we Apple users were pretty much the underdogs and expected the platform to die any day.

But now that Windows users feel threatened by Apple and are sensitive about this, it should probably be changed. Although it's a fun relic of the olden times.

This is the same company that displays Windows machines it finds on the network with a Blue Screen of Death. You have to really zoom in on that icon to see it, but it's there. As a Certified Apple Fanboi(tm), such pettiness bothers me. I'd go as far as to call it unprofessional. But macOS rules and Windoze droolz, amirite?
I'd give them a pass for this as it's been in there since they really were the underdogs. At the time it was punching up. Not so much now.
That's my mental picture of Windows, and it's not because of the Mac icon. So in my opinion, it is a fair likeness.
About showing their products in the best light, it seems they also chose to limit the view of the notch of their brand new MBP to one (kind of small) picture... among pictures of 30 devices.
If they used an XPS people might accidentally realize that you don't need a notch to put a camera at the top of your screen.
But then they'd have to show the corresponding person in the video call as being nothing but a floating nose.
The XPS line fixed that last year. It's at the top of the screen in a super thing bezel.
The new XPS has windows hello AND a super thin bezel. Imagine that.
Dell uses a low quality 720p camera on their XPS line.

And the notch gives them room for a future FaceID sensor stack.

And Apple only just with the new MBPs upgraded to 1080p.

And Dell supports Windows Hello 3D face recognition without a notch.

It's not quite as unbalanced as you imply.

And the notch was only just introduced. Not sure what your point is here.
The initial implication, "Dell's webcam implementation sucks. Apple's is better because of the resolution and position, which allows facial recognition".

Apple's resolution was equally as bad as Dell's until eight days ago.

Dell's position allows facial recognition without cutting into the screen.

So my point is that contrary to several comments implying how "obvious" it is that Apple's webcam implementation is superior, it's not necessarily obvious, nor superior.

> And the notch gives them room for a future FaceID sensor stack

If that's really the reason, why not just delay putting the notch on until they're actually doing that?

Why can't the most valuable company in the world just engineer a solution? Dell was able to fit infrared facial unlock inside that tiny bezel too, so I don't really buy the "it's for faceID" argument (especially since they didn't include the hardware this time). It's a ridiculous decision by a company that deserves to be ridiculed for cutting corners on a professional device.
Man. The screen was not cut by a notch, rather it grow to envelope the camera.

Compare the top bezel in a pre-notch mac book and you will see that the camera is basically on the same place as before, but the bezel is now smaller.

The function row wasn't replaced by the touch bar, the screen just grew to envelop the keyboard!
Many popular Windows laptops e.g. Thinkpad look like that.

And since they are targeting younger people for Facetime maybe not surprising they didn't choose the most expensive, flagship phone.

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And yet iPhones are flagship phones...

Taste is subjective. Anyone arguing that the MBP is objectively better than, say, https://icdn.digitaltrends.com/image/digitaltrends/dell-xps-...

is just expressing their preferences. And I say that as someone who is waiting on delivery of the 14" MBP.

M1 Pro/Max destroys the competition by every definition.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

So taste maybe subjective. But there is simply no argument that if you care about performance or battery life then the MacBook Pro is objectively better.

How does it fare in price/performance? I'd wager that's what will matter more than performance/watt to 90% of customers.
90% of customers only need MacBook airs, which have been at the top of price/performance for a decade.
Really? I'd love to see a source for how the $900 Intel MBAs stacked up against equivalently priced laptop hardware.
Right. I just ordered the M1 Max, for similar reasons. Even against my mid 2019 MBP.

The iPhone / Android objection still stands.

What do you think the average Windows laptop and Android phone look like?
Looks about like the hardware you'd get for a N2040 laptop or a prepaid unlocked phone. Half of the stuff on the shelf at Walmart looks like this today. Just because Apple doesn't make entry-level hardware doesn't mean they're under any obligation to pretend that other companies don't. I think the image illustrates quite well what this update means -- FaceTime isn't just a rich-kid platform anymore.
So I just took a few minutes to lookup for the picture of an "N2040" (or various random low cost laptops, N4020 seems more likely if it's about a Celeron CPU, but I actually found one laptop model named "N2040") and they have bezels clearly thinner than what Apple shows for the laptop PC picture.

Ironically, during my research I also found this marvelous few years old MacBook Air https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/offer/buy/2076960204/portabl... , which is not too far.

So I'm not really convinced that attempt of an excuse makes any sense...

Finally, you can FaceTime with poor people!
Focus …. by adding gazillions of notification options, and also get more notifications for "weekly screen time"… yeah, I really needed even more useless information to process instead of living my life. If i want time off i’ll just put the device down, what a concept :/

They’ve got it completely backwards.

I don't know how Monterey differs from iOS, but while I initially dismissed the new focus features as irrelevant, I quickly realized how useful they can be. Specifically I blocked all work-related notifications when I was on vacation.

Allowing for one-time customizations doesn't add to my ongoing "useless information to process" queue.

It's just another means to an end that isn't much harder than what you could do before. I'm on mojave and ios 13 and I do the same by going to system preferences and hitting the checkboxes in my work account section.
It’s ok it doesn’t work for you. But for some of us it provides isolation between various aspects of our life.
More importantly, it gives us granular isolation and automated ways of activating them, rather than just having a single Do Not Disturb option that does all-or-nothing. It’s a feature that I have really come to like during the betas and definitely helps me to stay on top of information overload, allowing notifications from certain apps at certain times of day (e.g. work hours, sleep hours) or places (e.g. gym).
Agreed, though I really wish it would let me pick which Slacks or Mail servers get through in different modes.
I don't think it's as complicated as you make it out to be. It's just adding to the "Do not disturb" option that's been there for ages. You can still use that indiscriminate DND option and ignore the rest.

But some of us do want certain messages to breach while we're working.

MacOS major version release are so underwhelming to me. They're not so much OS updates as they're updates to built-in apps I don't use or use at a very surface level: Safari, Facetime, Apple Maps, Messages, etc.

I'm not really sure what I'd want out of a new MacOS, though. It's been stable and (for my purposes) feature-complete for many years now. I don't remember the last time a MacOS upgrade added a feature I wanted but didn't yet have, nor the last time they added a feature I didn't realize I wanted because I'd never imagined it. The latter used to be what made Apple products stand out to me.

Same here. Looking through recent release highlights, Mojave adding Dark Mode is the mot recent stand-out I spotted, and even that I don't really care about all that much.

Universal Control has potential to be valuable.

I personally prefer the incremental yearly updates to huge changes on a longer timeframe. I'm pretty excited about Live Text, personally. I've been getting a lot of great use out of it on iOS.

If we're talking about other recent releases, ARM (/iOS app interoperability) support was definitely a huge change :)

Every time I hold on a pic on my iPhone to preview it it highlights the text in there instead.
At least they've managed to optimize and make the OS faster. Mojave feels faster on my 2014 MPB than previous installations did. Would wish they would focus on the apps and not revamping the system each time they do an update.
I would love a more detailed change log of the actual OS level changes because sometimes there’s useful tidbits but you often have to be watching the WWDC content in order to see what will be in the upcoming OS. There have been some under the hood things like the APFS switch, Rosetta, and other under the hood changes that can significantly impact the OS. In this release I saw that there is a new copy mechanism in the finder which seems pretty significant but there isn’t a lot of detail about the technology behind it. I am also interested in the universal control and the ability to use your mac as an airplay device so now you can stream another Mac which used to be some thing then I did using a lunar display adapter. I also saw there’s a built in TOTP feature now which might be handy. I agree though most changes seem like app changes and services that could be decoupled from an OS update.
I have my pet peeves I would love to change. But they are mostly not close to kernel or "OS" level; rather they are UI quirks.
Underwhelming updates are good, that way corporate IT doesn't take 3 years to approve updating company computers.
I'm impressed. People really will never be satisfied.

A relatively low-key, under-the-hood Mac release? "Man I miss when the Mac was innovative. These releases are a snooze fest."

A big release, packed with features? "Man I miss when Apple cared about their OS stability. We need a new zero features snooze fest like 10.6. Take me back to Snow Leopard :("

Only HN can pull off such astounding mood swings. I know this site isn't a monolith of opinions, but come on.

This reminds me of a conversation I heard once in London.

I was in a line for some food at a Puppet (the config management tool) conference and two guys in front of me were chatting about their Puppet runs.

One turned to the other and said, "My Puppet runs are really slow. It takes 10-15 minutes for it to run and apply state to all 15,000 servers."

I couldn't believe it. The guy was complaining about having to wait 15 minutes to apply state to 15,000 operating systems.

What is wrong with people? You haven't got to go back far to take all of this innovation away and still people aren't pleased.

These releases offer me nothing, take a big chunk of time to operate, and break my old software and device.

And bugs linger for years and never get fixed.

I think it's very reasonable to complain.

Wow it's almost as if multiple people comment on things here and they have different opinions!
I know, it's just a caricature at this point. Common, everyday tropes in HN.
You can do both things at the same time, add new features that don't alienate their powerusers while also having a stable OS. Maybe if Apple delivered on both counts more in recent years people wouldn't feel the need to complain so much. It was complaining after all that got them to wake up and kill the touchbar and that butterfly keyboard.
I find them worse than underwhelming. Generally, the thing that usually pushes me to upgrade is EOL of the OS I'm on, or escaping some abomination perpetrated by the OS I'm on. It's almost never a compelling feature, because I need an OS to run applications, mostly.

The abomination that would get me off of Big Sur is the ridiculously low contrast difference for titlebars between foreground and background apps. Turning on the contrast accessibility option looks horrible. However, it's looking like thanks to HazeOver, this is a wait-for-EOL cycle.

Wait. Is this normal cross platform FaceTime? Or is this like a different FaceTime because FaceTime is awesome.
I believe it's web based for cross platform. So equivalent to Google Meet and with similar UX limitations.
Everyone can initiate a call in Google Meet. Only Apple customers can initiate a call in FaceTime. So, they're not exactly equivalent.
If you're on iOS/macOS, you can send someone a web link to join a FaceTime call with you. Not sure how the browser support is offhand. There's no client for anything else and others can't initiate calls.
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For the Focus feature, I find it a bit unexpected that someone messaging me can tell if I'm Driving, Sleeping, Coding, or Reading, etc. Does anyone else find this a bit strange/awkward? I know you can turn it off (and I did) within iMessage, but it seems a bit poorly considered. Curious if people like that aspect of the feature!
I thought it was only letting them know that you were currently unavailable, not the specific Focus type you are currently in.
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Ah wonderful. I misunderstood "focus status" to mean the actual name of your focus was displayed, rather the generic "Evan has notifications silenced" message. Thank you for the clarification!

As to what notifications have been helpful: I ended up making Reading and Listening focuses to make personal stuff like reading and podcasting more enjoyable. Then for work I separated out Communicating (email, slack, asana, collaborative docs) from Coding (everything off) as it seemed those had quite different notification needs.

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It will show your contact that you have notifications silenced, not which Focus mode you activated.
It certainly CAN show that though. "Would you like your contacts to know you are driving and unavailable?"
>Pick from a list of suggested Focus options or create your own.
The first time i opened Messages on iOS 15 is prompted me for if I wanted to alert contacts when i'm on do not disturb, and there's an option in settings to toggle it as well.
you can toggle it per contact so I have it on for my wife but no one else.
I wonder how many people will use joke statuses. Hopefully they will add an "exclusion list" in the future.

edit: nvm, it just shows a generic status message for all people. it does not display the exact status to that person.

Literally the only interesting feature, to me, is Low Power Mode
which fixes the gpu overheating with external displays. took a while for them to find a fix...
Wow, really? OK, now I'm actually excited.
Sounds more like a crutch rather than a fix
at least it, fixed it. of couse it's just a duck tape fix, but well. at least it works.
My PowerPC G4 PowerBooks have that.
I wonder what the battery life on M1 pro is with Low power mode compared to m1
That Focus mode would be killer if it integrated some sort of pomodoro / calendar integration.
There are people that do some wild things with shortcuts, I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already done the work with that.

Edit: It looks like shortcuts won't be able to set (or clear) focus modes, so that'll have to wait. Bummer.

That’s unfortunate, you can set focus modes from shortcuts on ios.

When i turn on my Bluetooth speaker in the shower room it goes into a focus mode that diverts all calls for 15 mins and resumes my podcasts. I thought the experience on macos was supposed to be a superset of the ios one. Really poor decision by apple then.

Shortcuts on iPadOS and whatever beta of Monterey I'm running on this computer can both set and clear focus modes. I use that on my iPad to set a focus mode, which also updates my home screens, and launch AudioBus in one go by running my shortcut. Weirdly it can't check what the current focus mode is.
Check out Cold Turkey.
Am I the only one that's really excited about Universal Control? If nothing else, it's extremely impressive from an engineering perspective (if it works as seamlessly as they make it seem). To be able to take your work from your iPad to your iMac like that would be pretty incredible.
I think quite a lot of that has been available by copy/paste over Handoff, it seems like the major change here is that it's available with a shared pointing device. Still impressive!
Agreed, but that one change instantly takes it from "occasionally useful" to "hot damn that's so cool".
I’m a weirdo who does ~1/3 of my device time on my phone so I’ve probably just been using this feature more than most people already :)
It doesn't work very well in office environments unfortunately. I gave it a try with my work MBP and Mac Pro, and the amount of cursor judder / keyboard lag was wild. It'd also just plain not work at times. I think things are better when the environment is less busy and devices can talk to eachother over the same WiFi network (instead of WiFi direct), but it has proven to be unusable in the one scenario where I'd have liked to use it.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That's what I was afraid of when I saw this first advertised. It's a bummer, because it's a feature I could see being useful in a lot of different (ad hoc) scenarios.
Universal Control isn’t even out yet in beta.
It's very easy to enable. But yeah, I will admit it's not 'production-ready'.
the best OS if you are fed up with windoze bloatware and are too lazy to setup a working desktop environment that suits you on linux

it has native unix environment, is fast and efficient

Are there any api changes? I’d love to see a new version moving to feature parity with vulkan.
Any of the awful UX functions been rolled back? Notifications and the bluetooth menus are an abomination.
I was hoping someone would mention this.

Shoving everything into a sub-menu made device statuses invisible and involved extra clicks to interact with them. It's user-hostile design.

Did you know you can drag the controls out onto the menu bar?
No, I did not.
Not to be rude, but this has been a thing for some time now.
> rude

to Apple?

Why can't this be a predictable hold and drag, like everything else?

They expect users to... what read a manual?

There is an alternative, make it so that users can intuitively discover features by playing around. I believe Steve Jobs told some pretentious story along that line when he launched the iPad.

> There is an alternative, make it so that users can intuitively discover features by playing around. I believe Steve Jobs told some pretentious story along that line when he launched the iPad.

And of course the technology hasn't evolved since then. Society hasn't gotten more complex. The problems we're solving are the same. Nothing has changed and people aren't asking for new things and demanding more convenience.

Everything is static.

?

> technology hasn't evolved since then... everything is static.

Maybe read again, no one said that. If anything it used to be the norm to have clunky products that require a manual. Many products these days don't need manuals.

I mentioned Steve Jobs to say he was full of shit, I don't believe for a second that Apple did actually pursuit that philosophy, let alone that they should stay doing it

You just blew my mind. Thank you!
This just saved me several minutes every day. Thank you!
"show bluetooth in menubar" checkbox in bluetooth prefs also works as it always has.
Bluetooth menu structure is god-tier compared to how it used to be, what do you mean "abomination"?
Apple took away a key feature, where you pressed a key combo (shift+alt) and clicked on the Bluetooth menu bar item, and you'd get an option to reset Bluetooth; this helped for the inevitable case where people have bugs and devices won't connect, or Bluetooth just won't work.

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-mac-bluetooth-module/

That no longer exists on Monterey.

They might be referencing Control Center, though.

How are secret features better than the now-discoverable option of simply shutting it off and turning it back on? It's an all-time computing classic and now it's using the UI classic toggle language. This seems superb to me.
Turning bluetooth on and off doesn't reset anything, so it doesn't help when people have deeper problems with their Mac's bluetooth.
Ok, I understand. That is a regression. The UI piece as a whole is still superior in my opinion, wrt UX at least, even if this is a regression in functionality
...are you sure? When bluetooth was broken as all hell in the Monterey betas I believe that the reset trick was the go-to for people to get it to reconnect to devices properly.

Unless they removed it entirely in a later beta and I'm simply unaware.

I can only confirm that it's gone from Monterey RC1 and RC2 (& therefore the release build).
been using since first public betas months ago. hated this for a couple weeks, but then once I realized it how it unified everything in one place, now I love it. It took a while for me to adjust to though.
Exactly, thank you! At least they should implement some easy cli commands for those who don't want to deal with the awful UX.
blueutil. I connect my bluetooth headphones to macOS by issuing ‘hp’ in iTerm2 which is an alias to blueutil to connect to my headphones by ID number
Just having functional bluetooth would be nice? Bluetooth on my MBP recently decided to turn "off", and clicking/sliding the on/off slider just does nothing. The slider doesn't move to "on", and I get no feedback, errors, information or anything about why I can't re-enable it.

Prior to that BT devices would just drop the connection, AFAICT.

Bi-directional file transfer has never worked properly.

And that's only BT…

IDK what's actually that bad about the BT menu UI though? The recent UX changes on notifications have been bad, though. Especially where sometimes clicking the X doesn't dismiss the notification. (There's some bait&switch b/c there's like multiple notifications stacked up… or something.) And that (for a while now) Calendar hasn't reliably notified me, which has been great, as it results in lateness to meetings, since there's no longer an office mate to say "hey, it's time".

BT is broken everywhere. I daily-drive MacOS, Windows 10, and PopOS, all on pretty solid hardware. All 3 have countless issues with BT stuff, whether it's UI and issues with connecting/remembering, or dropouts, or it just failing to work on random days, or audio glitches, or not finding some generic peripherals that the other OSes do find, etc etc.

I use BT a lot, half a dozen devices I use every single day, and I have issues with every single peripheral on at least 1 (usually 2) of the 3 OSes I use.

BT itself seems like such a simple thing to get right too... not sure what I'm missing about it that makes it so technically hard to just work as expected.

Do you have an 16" Macbook Pro? There is a hardware bug where plugging in external bluetooth kills the internal bluetooth.
That’s a thing on 13” MBP as well, it happened to me. I needed to use some super antiquated BT USB adapter and provide the digital equivalent of an indigenous rain dance in order to revive it. Apparently Apple was just straight up replacing motherboards because of it but I really didn’t want to be without my machine for a week plus during peak COVID.
No. It is all still the same dumpster fire. I think they may have actually made it worse.

I got a calendar notification of a cancelled event. The notification itself had no buttons to interact with. A hover where the close button would be (top left of the nmotification) causes it to appear and also causes a "delete" button to appear in the bottom right. But if I move my mouse off the "close" button to click "delete" both the close and delete buttons disappear. The only way to delete it is to click it (opening the calendar) wait for the calendar to open (5-10s on a 2019 i7 MBP) then open the event itself to delete it.

The hidden close button is so dumb. Why make it so small and make it hide if I go 5 pixels away from the notification?
It’s one of the least user friendly patterns in the OS that I can think of off hand, yet one that I have to interact with dozens of times per day. It’s bizarre.
I just realized that the button is impossible to interact with on Monterey. The only way to get the "options" drop down (something that used to be individual buttons on the notification) to appear is to hover over the "X" but if you move the mouse away from that the options drop down disappears. There's actually no way to do something like snooze a notification from the notification itself.

It's an astonishing regression in functionality, even for Apple. And with Apple's recent UI "improvements" I'm not sure if it is a bug or deliberate. I'm probably holding it wrong but I can't figure out the combination of interactions to get that button to persist.

This. The Bluetooth menu icon used to change if a device was connected. Also devices under the Bluetooth menu used to say connected, and not just turn a light-blue shade.
the notifications change makes me actively angry

I'm sitting on catalina for as long as possible on my non-work laptop

No joke I could not actually work out how to change the audio device on my mac the other day. Took a while to realise it's hidden in the little menu.
I still don’t understand why clicking the menu date/time opens the notifications? Someone at Apple was paid $million/year to implement that? It still trips me up once a day.
Are all features available on all recent Macs (Intel + M1)? iirc there were some features that there were some exclusive M1 features to come, but also overheard rumors that they'd still roll out on "old" Intel Macs.

Edit: Apparently some features are indeed M1 only. Those features are

- portrait mode in FaceTime

- apparently the new Apple Maps design

- the interactive globe

Seems like the most important features (for me it's livetext) are available on both architectures.

Sort of a mini review. Using it at home on my MacBook Pro 2015 Intel Machine.

Big Sur on M1 was fine ( if not great ), mostly because M1 is extremely fast. But Big Sir on x86 was slow, really slow. I am in the group that reported Big Sur was slower than Catalina, and Catalina was slower than Mojave. That is with both the OS itself and Safari. So Big Sur was not a smooth experience for me.

Monterey so far brings back the speed / snappiness of Mojave. Safari feels so much more responsive under normal use and under heavy tab usage. Lots micro-pause ( Jank ) and lag are gone. As if they put back all the optimisation for x86 previously left out.

Far less Kernel_Task CPU usage and stupid disk write for whatever reason. My guess this is mostly a Safari problem given they have implemented Tab Groups they have at least taken into account of heavy tab usage in mind. This is also apparent when they fix the long standing Tab Overview bug, where it will load ( and reload ) every single Tabs you have trying to generate thumbnail. Imagine you accidentally press the Tab Overview button in the tool bar, or three finger swap in Safari when you have hundreds of tabs. You will instantly get a few hundreds GB of Disk Write paging trying load everything. It is literally a feature that kills your SSD. I have reported this bug for over three years, it is finally fixed. Cloudd and Bookmark / History / Tab Sync pause / Jank is still not fix though. That is 3 years+ and counting.

Still wish they do a list of tabs like Chrome instead of Thumbnails when it is over certain Tabs Number. It is easier to track when you have lots of Tabs. Easier to do Manual Garbage Collection of Tabs.

Bug that causes IINA to crash when viewing video in portrait mode is gone. One of the biggest complain when updating to Big Sur.

WindowsServer also uses far less CPU. It used to hover over 30% for no apparent reason. Now it is back to a normal 5-15% in most cases.

Safari "classic" tabs are back. Along with a very long list of webkit improvement. Far from perfect but at least things are moving.

I am also feeling Apps that are using Swift and SwiftUI are snappier than before and uses less memory. An observation mostly from using Stocks App.

Many other minor details, may be worth reading Ars' review [1]. It is solid release, which along with M1 MacBook Pro sadly dampens my motivation to move away from Apple.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/macos-12-monterey-th...

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that's great to hear

i have a MacBook Pro with Intel as well

Big Sur feels sluggish, it's not that it's slow, but it feels slow. I don't remember what OS my MacBook came with, but every update made it slower, especially Mail.app, which takes good 10 seconds to launch. Downloading Monterey now, hopefully will see improvements!

edit: but my biggest macOS complaint yet has to be the space used by "Other", which at the moment is about 50GB and 70GB at times

I was just helping a family member with this same issue (large amount of “Other” space) and turns out it was some unmounted volumes that had somehow been created. We couldn’t track down what was on them in the time period I had to help, but doing a clean wipe cleared it all up. Not the best answer to the problem.
"Other" may be some local Time Machine snapshots, which are purgeable.

It may also be an APFS snapshot, which is _not_ purgeable (indeed macOS boots of signed snapshots now)

tmutil listlocalsnapshots / is your friend here. You can delete snapshots at will, and that usually clears up a few gigs of space.
I heard the same from a friend. But my 2012 Air won’t get it. So I’m stuck on Catalina, as I can’t downgrade to Mojave.
I take a full disk image before every major OS upgrade for this reason.
> Far less Kernel_Task CPU usage

This typically means the machine is thermally throttled, not that the kernel is actually using the CPU.

Contrary to popular belief, kernel_task actually has things it needs to do, and sometimes those use CPU time. It's not "typically" thermal throttling.
I'm actually surprised by how much snappier it feels. I'm on an i7 2018 mac mini.
I'm still on Mojave. Is it possible to jump versions, or must I upgrade incrementally?
Note that macOS versions beyond Mojave drop support for 32-bit binaries.
That's why I've held on so long. I'd have to say goodbye forever to Adobe Fireworks, the best web design tool ever developed.
Why fix what's not broke?
Betting that the next incremental update will be named macOS Carmel.
Nah, too close, they will go farther north, I think.

Point Reyes is my bet.

Closeness is the point. They did do Yosemite/El Capitan and Sierra/High Sierra, after all.
So Private Relay is available on both iOS and macOS stable releases now.

Have there been expert opinions about how private this is? I understand they built a Tor-light, by hopping through one Apple server, then one external server, with some sort of anonymisation between the two?

The external servers are like cloudflare and fastly. Private relay doesn’t make any claims to be as private or anonymous as tor. It’s designed more to keep ISPs less aware of your browsing history and prevent websites from tracking you with IP.

In my experience so far, Private Relay just turns off and back on randomly. There’s no safari indicator that private relay is off, just push notifications to inform you of the status. Private relay and mail privacy protection also completely disable when using another VPN. That said I’m very happy to get private relay with iCloud+ as it means phone is approaching the point where carrier can’t associate me with browsing history for to sell to whatever creepy business offers them money.

Still can't stream fitness+ to a mac?
I'm not sure I need yet another macOS version, feels like they've opted for a more frequent release cycle. I (genuinely) wonder why...
> feels like they've opted for a more frequent release cycle

Their OS releases have been yearly for about the past decade I think.

Given how stable Big Sur was until 11.15.6 I don't think I'll be hastily upgrading! [Edited]
I think you mean Catalina? That was 10.15. Big Sur was 11.