This is cool (only read the first two lines so far) but if you're really interested in Hacker News Parody software you should check out our startup: https://zombo.com/#HACKER_NEWS_PARODY_DOT_IO
I disagree with the author. I know he's incredibly successful and right about pretty much everything he's ever said, but I've had some experience in this area and just finished reading through some of the archives and I think his focus is wrong. I'm going to ignore the technical issue and talk about the bigger picture and higher level things than what was said in the blog post. If the OP thinks that the process is most important, it's really about end results. But if he thinks it should be about the end results then he's an idiot for not thinking about the process. I'll weasel in a reference the startup I co-founded even though it's not directly relevant.
Yes, I can elaborate, however, this information should have been taught to you by the age of 2. Silly HN.
A tangent is simply a line that touches a non-linear curve (like a circle) at only a single point. It represents an equation with the relationship between the coordinates “x” and “y” on a two-dimensional graph.
The tangential velocity is the measurement of the speed at any point tangent to a rotating wheel in a circular motion. Thus angular velocity, ω, is related to the tangential velocity, Vt, through the formula. Tangential velocity is the component of the motion along the edge of a circle measured at any arbitrary point of time. As per its name, tangential velocity describes the motion of an object along the edge of the circle, whose direction at any given point on the circle is always along the tangent to that point.
The only thing missing is the actual expert making a clueful statement at the very bottom of the page where nobody reads. Possibly downvoted a couple of times.
[-] collapses the replies so that you can easily see what's next. On reddit the equivalent functionality is a button literally called "hide child comments."
But as another comment mentioned, you can click root | parent | prev | next to get navigated through the thread. Personally, I prefer the collapse, though, as having the top of my screen move without my direct control is a bit jarring, but there's more functionality from these buttons.
Important fact:
The [-] does not remove a point. After you get 500 points, you earn the privilege of down voting, you will get a "down triangle" underneath the "up vote up triangle" that you can click on.
You are welcome! My very small contribution to the system (I asked and "pushed" for it) - of course, Dang and/or his team implemented it. It is pleasant to read about it in such appreciative terms.
Off-topic aside, but why do people complain about back-button hijack when you can long-press or right-click and get out of the site? It works on any browser AIUI.
1. Long press doesn't show full history, it limits to 10-15(? Might be more). I've seen the occasional scummy background script that exploits this with numerous scripted redirects (usually pages with seo snippets cloned from SO). You have to disable the network to go back without being re-redirected, then go through a couple rounds of the back button history to get back to your original page.
2. If you're not using a full browser or are set up to keep a short history, you're basically SOL (Materialistic for HN has a built-in WebView, and I've used similar apps for other sites)
3. I shouldn't have to use history just because some site decided that it should add multiple history entries when I tried to scroll down an infinite list. I'm only on your website because it showed up in a search result, I'm not here to browse other unrelated content.
I appreciate the juicy center of good humor inside your comment of rage. Maybe the following will help.
You're right, of course. It's just that there are competing values, so we have to make a tradeoff. One value is usability and having web content be less annoying, intrusive, abusive, and so on. No disagreement there. I think most HN readers share similar feelings about these things; certainly I do.
The other value is curiosity. Curiosity likes new things, different things [0], unexpected things—things it can learn from. It doesn't do so well with repetition [1], indignation, or genericness [2].
These two values conflict because complaints about the former tend to be repetitive, indignant, and generic.
How to decide the conflict? That question actually has a clear answer, because we're trying to optimize for just one thing here, namely intellectual curiosity [3]. So that value has to win.
This is one of those cases where it's super helpful to have just one thing you're optimizing for and to know exactly what it is. It's not that this is the 'right' decision, the 'correct' guideline, or anything like that—it's just correct relative to what we're trying to optimize for.
Or about how React bloatware introduces tens of petabytes of completely unnecessary dependencies, is destroying the Web, a perfectly-designed hypertext platform for linking documents together for reading on all manner of devices from screenreaders to Braille interfaces and toaster ovens.
How does this compare to X? (where X is an obscure project on github with no documentation of what it's feature boundaries are, has at best 1000 stars and further internet sleuthing suggests its at best only tangentially associated with the original comments domain.
The end result being the author feels obliged to figure it out and reply incase not doing so seems arrogant and/or poorly educated in the domain)
> Here's a long detailed, objective explanation of everything related to this issue. It's probably more useful than the actual link and it may serve as one of the best efforts to consolidate information on this subject on the entire Internet. If it contains original research only a couple of readers will be qualified to tell. Half the people who upvote this won't understand more than the first two paragraphs.
Exactly explains the value of hn, when this happens.
Absolutely. Sometimes you get a comment thread where some specialists add way more than “average” commenters could actually add. I like it because it gives insights in difficult subjects!
There are so many problems that affect many working programmers which you only learn the good answers to by lucking into spending years in the right job.
I always upvote when people share that specialized knowledge and edify the rest of us.
But to the ultra self important pedants, they don’t see it that way at all…it’s not useless it’s a fundamental reality that you’d be a complete idiot not to fully appreciate…just make sure you also worship their brilliance in deigning to illuminate you
Too bad that n-gate.com stopped updating in mid-2021. It was great for this stuff, and arguably it still is.
Edit: Don't miss the usernames in OP's parody thread though, they're just as hard to spot as on actual HN (which is a great feature of this site) but I thought they were the funniest part.
When telling people about HN, I'd emphasize first reading the guidelines, and not treating it like other social media. Then I'd say, when some comment thread goes intolerable, they can get relief by reading some n-gate. (Though the content of the last post precluded mentioning it at the company where I was working.)
I hope the n-gate person is well, and that they didn't blow a gasket, taking on the burdens of too many HNers.
> Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.
On a tangential note, did this guideline change recently? In some search results "e.g." changes to "things like".
An internet attempts a third-rate mockery of Hackernews. Hackernews pulls a "this, but unironically", earnestly replicating every joke comment in the original article, right down to the obligatory XKCD.
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[ 2.7 ms ] story [ 252 ms ] threadhttps://news.ycombinator.com/leaders
+1 for https://zombo.com/#HACKER_NEWS_PARODY_DOT_IO
Back in the day nobody on HN would so egregiously misspell words. This place is turning into Reddit.
I'm honestly really curious about this. Could you elaborate?
[2] http://me
[3] localhost:8080
Whoa, I just checked that link, and there's some really offensive stuff on there. Is flamebait like this allowed around here?
* You omitted his point about hyper-anal correction.
* You misunderstood the meaning of a parody.
* Here's point of a parody you didn't account for
jkjk
Thanks
>link to their site
>creator of (literally the thing being discussed), 2007
>20+ YoE in everything
* 5-day/40hr work weeks should be abolished in favor of 3-day/24hr work weeks
* I will never, ever work in an office again - work from home/remote 100% only
* I will sabatoge my work place if I am forced to work on nights/weekends
* All bosses are ssholes and should never be trusted
* Senior leadership (CEOs, etc) should forfit all their money and die if they ever lay off people
* People with more money than me suck
... but I will be downvoted due to being neither insightful nor argumentative.
Not a single person complained about link not working with JavaScript disabled.
Rust feels too 2019
Warning all, don’t paste this into your shell!
Everything is better with blockchainTM
(Also is this relavant or am I just piggy-backing your top comment?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
But as another comment mentioned, you can click root | parent | prev | next to get navigated through the thread. Personally, I prefer the collapse, though, as having the top of my screen move without my direct control is a bit jarring, but there's more functionality from these buttons.
I thought you had to click the [-]. How do I press the [-]?
I cannot click anything on my phone.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33667270 (2 days ago, 68 comments)
https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news
You are welcome! My very small contribution to the system (I asked and "pushed" for it) - of course, Dang and/or his team implemented it. It is pleasant to read about it in such appreciative terms.
Because it’s nowhere near equally convenient or standard to do so.
2. If you're not using a full browser or are set up to keep a short history, you're basically SOL (Materialistic for HN has a built-in WebView, and I've used similar apps for other sites)
3. I shouldn't have to use history just because some site decided that it should add multiple history entries when I tried to scroll down an infinite list. I'm only on your website because it showed up in a search result, I'm not here to browse other unrelated content.
[0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
How does this compare to X? (where X is an obscure project on github with no documentation of what it's feature boundaries are, has at best 1000 stars and further internet sleuthing suggests its at best only tangentially associated with the original comments domain.
The end result being the author feels obliged to figure it out and reply incase not doing so seems arrogant and/or poorly educated in the domain)
Exactly explains the value of hn, when this happens.
I always upvote when people share that specialized knowledge and edify the rest of us.
I think that's when HN is at its best.
Here's a hyper-anal correction that is itself correct, but doesn't exactly contradict the OP.
Actually, logged-in simulation-user icandownvote (500 karma) can't actually down vote yet.
This is genius
Also, check out the top bar link hrefs:
new | threads | comments | ask | jobs | submit
new - http://news.ycombinator.com/TakeADeepBreath
threads - http://news.ycombinator.com/CheckRepliesToMyComments?id=ican...
comments - http://news.ycombinator.com/KillACoupleMinutes
ask - http://news.ycombinator.com/KickstartADiscussionNoOneWillPar...
jobs - http://news.ycombinator.com/AnyoneActuallyClickThis?
submit - http://news.ycombinator.com/ACommentorIncludedAnAwesomeLink,...
Sound the klaxons, that link includes http not https don't people know the security risks?!
Also, I'm going for a couple of genres with the above
I've always hated this. Thankfully I've found it happens much, much less on HN vs say reddit haha.
The cherry on top is how the correction is effectively useless.
Also missing a section where someone makes a statement as a fact and has a response from an expert explaining why they are wrong.
Edit: Don't miss the usernames in OP's parody thread though, they're just as hard to spot as on actual HN (which is a great feature of this site) but I thought they were the funniest part.
Alas, no one will know because... you didn't pilotfish-post on firstpost comment.
I hope the n-gate person is well, and that they didn't blow a gasket, taking on the burdens of too many HNers.
On a tangential note, did this guideline change recently? In some search results "e.g." changes to "things like".