this was on purpose! I figured there have been enough collaborative internet drawing experiences (with a locked canvas that was easy to draw on) that it'd be interesting to try something a little different and see what emerged.
That said, it might be a dumb idea! But I wanted to try it.
I think having to "scan" to identify images is kind of fun! And it means the artist gets to choose the width of their own art. A lot of folks have a common screen width so there are fewer combinations than you think.
Oh, that's a shame. The big willy I drew is only visible at exactly the width I have it set at. I wonder what random things I'm missing. It takes a while to reflow too so it's not like it's easy to resize the window and see in realtime what other people are ding.
this is very neat, I love this kind of experiments!
could I ask you what's your hardware configuration for handling so many WebSocket connections? I'm just curious to know what's the maximum capacity of WS connections you can reach now that you posted on HN :)
I think there's a severe problem with this implementation. By using wrapping, I can't write "boobs" and have everyone else read my graffiti without them having having the same zoom wrapping point.
There's a link in the bottom-left corner, haven't checked, but reads like an accompanying reddit tool (since there's no real plugin system, guess it's a web app requiring credentials)
You could sorta kinda claim that most OLED displays are not rectangular [1], since only green is at full resolution, with blue and red being at a partial resolution, by sharing those sub pixels between "logical" pixels.
Note for anyone confused, this is about AMOLED displays commonly used in phones and some OLED laptops from a few years ago.
W-OLED and QD-OLED have unconventional layouts compared to LCDs but every pixel has the complete set of sub pixels (RGB for QD-OLED, RGBW for W-OLED) so it looks more like this:
Just mentioning as while AMOLED phones being the majority of OLED displays seems plausible to me, it's likely not what people in this thread are picturing when they see OLED.
This problem is traditionally solved by attempting to teach the aliens how to decode the pattern inside the pattern itself. For example a rendering might look like
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ x _ x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x _ _ _ x _ x _ _ x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x x x _ x x _ _ x x x _ _ x x x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ x x x _ x x x _ _ x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
The idea is that the aliens can figure out first that these opening and closing sections have periodicity 30, and because they are so repetitive they do not contain the actual data bits, but then there is a central section which does contain complexity.
So then they will hopefully alight upon the idea of looking at the code two-dimensionally, and adjust their browser width until the lines all line up, at which point they get the custom message.
Slightly, yes! The Arecibo message was 73×23 bits, with the hope that the aliens would break lines after 23 bits. But,
i f . t h e s
n e i l a . e
s . l i k e .
o r t s u o b
p h e d o n .
w . r e d r o
e . a r e . k
c s . a d n i
r e w e d . o
a . e h t . n
r e c i b o .
e g a s s e m
. a n y w a y
and that's to say nothing of spiraling orders etc.
How long did you spend crafting this comment? Be honest.
I could imagine doing that with Vim, but I don’t think I could do it in less than ten minutes. And then I’d get sidetracked about whether to represent empty checkboxes with _ or - or a Unicode box.
IIRC these messages usually have their dimensions equal to primes, to help the aliens a little bit - for example the Arecibo message was 1679 = 73 * 23 bits. We're hoping the aliens have the sense to recognize a product of two primes.
No, no, it's a feature. Your message has been cleverly hidden behind a modern day scytale cipher. Intended recipients must know the correct screen width.
How else do you propose a toaster generate heat to make the toast? At least it's not the thermostat so it thinks the AC needs to constantly be running. So there's quite a bit of positive logic in the toaster decision
it's a tiny flask server, a bitset stored in redis, updates broadcast (too frequently! but i don't want to change it now) via websockets, and react-window to only render the checkboxes that are in view.
I'll do a writeup when i finish putting out fires!
I don't think you can put out a fire like this. Should have tried some kind of webrtc and Kademilia network and crypto to eventually communicate all updates.
Each time a checkbox is checked, a backend job asks ChatGPT to analyze the board state and write a script using Brainfuck that updates the checkbox states and runs it directly in production.
You said crypto but you forgot where running it in production writes the checkbox change event to the blockchain. Checkbox display states only get read from the blockchain, obvi. Otherwise how could it possibly be secure
Checkboxcoin will be a separate product though, that's for the funding
You announced it on the FediVerse, where it has already been boosted almost 700 times as I write this 4 hours later, and it spread to Reddit within 2 hours of that, as you know because you replied to the Reddit post. There is definitely going to be an initial spike of activity, given those. (-:
Ironically, I was looking to see whether Hacker News and anyone else had picked it up, from the FediVerse post. Bing found the Reddit thread from "One Million Checkboxes" as the search query. It's the second search result as I type this.
Love seeing things go viral off the fediverse, it's not designed to push the end of the spectrum out and more organic examples like this might help bring another layer of user adoption.
Is it ok if I try to write a script to uncheck all the boxes? I don’t want to spam your server and ruin it for everyone if there’s no rate limiting.
(I wince mentioning this publicly; still have flashback trauma from when some HNer wrote a script to download as much data as possible from our Firebase and got a $1k bill overnight.)
Hi! Sorry it took me a bit to get to this, I've been hacking to keep the server up for the last several hours.
Lots of people are botting, I don't think there's anything wrong if you bot too. There's a tiny bit of client-side rate limiting and originally i had server side rate limiting too, but I got rid of that a while ago (I was cutting anything I could to speed things up).
If you have time, one cool suggestion for gamification would be to do a SHA-256 hash of the binary values of the checkboxes and display current hash and the lowest hash so far.
Just an idea, but make it an internet game. Have a level 2,3,4.
The question is under what circumstances should that game switch to the next version. The idea I had was if all 1Million boxes are unchecked, but this is the internet someone would make it their life’s mission to keep one box checked.
IDK, I think you hinted upon something fun that we all like, it’s the Twitch vs thing, where everyone can interact and our total capacity makes the experience. This is also like the reddit/r/place which was also very fun.
I think you have a genuinely interesting idea, how can you grow it, nurture and change it to hit the true itch of humanity?
I love some stats and details on this, what kind of traffic are you seeing etc. Do you have a way to determine how many boxes in your visitor checks/unchecks? 97% of your pictures from Hacker News etc. Congrats on the hit!!!! Fun playing with it!!!
I am very late to this but as of now I think it has cost me about $85, although that will go up a little more quickly once I go through the bandwidth buffer I have with digital ocean (shouldn't be too bad tho)
Honestly that was one of my first thoughts when I saw this, someone is going to draw one of those. People love trying to be offensive in something that barely allows communication. I remember seeing some MMORPG that had no chat where players would log in and just stand in the shape of a swastika.
Makes me wonder if it's reasonable to write an algorithm to detect that.
Which MMO was that in? I'm working on my own and now I have a new worry on my plate. Short of standard moderation, an algorithm to detect it could be interesting.
You could search for the article about how the Lego mmo (or that's what i think it was) was shut down, then stop worrying about it. Unless you want to spend the rest of your natural life on detecting penises, swastikas and everything else. I mean, everything is offensive to someone.
I realized it would be easy enough to detect when certain lines are forming and manually shuffling the players a few spots, but your comment made me smile. Somewhere in there is the start of a biography title.
I built a grid-based music sequencer for the web a while ago that lets people see projects other people made in a side panel.
I very quickly realized I needed some manual content moderation because some people immediately started sharing patterns that looked like dicks and swastikas lol
Here's an extra part of the spec: Deliberately there is no correct WWW browser window width. So you'll also have to account for the swastika writers using a whole range of window widths.
It would be fun to attempt this with crdt's and libp2p (...or similar, I don't actually know those tools well I just like the idea of getting the server out of the loop).
The problem is you need to send 467k (current count of checked boxes) websocket messages and backend(s) are already dying for ~1 hour. Good luck with that, I only played for some time by clearing first 1000 boxes every few seconds.
Even after you send those 467k messages they need to be sent to (I assume) few thousands browsers each, so you need to wait for 467M messages to go through :D
// Navigate to your page
await page.goto('https://example.com'); // Replace with the actual URL
// Click all checkboxes
await page.$$eval('input[type=checkbox]', checkboxes => {
checkboxes.forEach(checkbox => checkbox.click());
});
// Close the browser
await browser.close();
})();
I'm proud of myself for getting the chill alert without even running a script, just frantically tapping with my fingers!
ok, fair point. i like treasure hunting. i should keep my private boxes locked.
and that makes me think of a new version of the game: actually hide treasures in some of the boxes. cookies, and also colored keys. keys allow you to lock (or unlock) boxes of a matching color. each key can only be used once.
async function main(){
let elems = Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("#root > div > div.grid > div input")).filter(v=>!v.checked)
for(let ee of elems){
await (new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(() => {
resolve()
}, 500)))
ee.click()
}
}
Keyboard shortcuts to scroll up/down don't work unless you click into the array of checkboxes. I think this could be fixed by adding `tabindex="0"` to the div holding the grid.
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[ 4.3 ms ] story [ 309 ms ] threadthis was on purpose! I figured there have been enough collaborative internet drawing experiences (with a locked canvas that was easy to draw on) that it'd be interesting to try something a little different and see what emerged.
That said, it might be a dumb idea! But I wanted to try it.
> Why
> I don’t really know. The idea came up in a conversation last Friday and I felt compelled to make it.
The best kind of reason :)
this is....more popular than i expected. the server's gonna be having some problems for a while
Sorry that my comment read like an accusation, should have clicked/tapped the link ;)
Not following links is a bad habit easy to pick up on mobile.
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_17760284.html
Angry guy flipping a table has always been my favorite.
If I need an escaped version, that's "shrgg": ‾\\\_(ツ)\_/‾
`std::shared_ptr<Gate> shrg = ...` or similar?
walk like an Egyptian
This feels like something else, it's ok if it has its own identity, otherwise it devolves/converges into a place to draw dicks in.
[1] https://www.oled-info.com/gs5-diamond-pixel-architecture-not...
W-OLED and QD-OLED have unconventional layouts compared to LCDs but every pixel has the complete set of sub pixels (RGB for QD-OLED, RGBW for W-OLED) so it looks more like this:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...
Just mentioning as while AMOLED phones being the majority of OLED displays seems plausible to me, it's likely not what people in this thread are picturing when they see OLED.
Honourable mentions go to the TARDIS picture at https://mstdn.ca/@Chigaze/112683847369819438 and the Sierpiński gasket attempt at https://mastodon.online/@Zotmeister/112684295968651688 .
So then they will hopefully alight upon the idea of looking at the code two-dimensionally, and adjust their browser width until the lines all line up, at which point they get the custom message.
Give the aliens some credit, they might figure it out.
I could imagine doing that with Vim, but I don’t think I could do it in less than ten minutes. And then I’d get sidetracked about whether to represent empty checkboxes with _ or - or a Unicode box.
Just tried in VSCode; 2:38min using its fabulous multiline editing. 1:34min on second try due to practice
One check for short, two checks for long, two blanks for end-of-character.
I'll do a writeup when i finish putting out fires!
A T-shirt with a checked box on the front an unchecked box on the back.
A T-shirt with an unchecked box on the front and a checked box on the back.
AI LLM cloud crypto.
Checkboxcoin will be a separate product though, that's for the funding
I'm confused, I read everyday on hacker news that react is the slowest JS framework ever made. Seems fine to me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/comments/1dp4t7...
By the way, Reddit allows you to track which communities a domain has been shared in, very interesting. This is how I quickly found it:
https://www.reddit.com/domain/onemillioncheckboxes.com/
Other interesting Bing search results are Arnold Trakhtenberg's re-creation of the WWW site code using Convex, at https://github.com/atrakh/one-million-checkboxes .
we know what's important here on hn
(I wince mentioning this publicly; still have flashback trauma from when some HNer wrote a script to download as much data as possible from our Firebase and got a $1k bill overnight.)
Lots of people are botting, I don't think there's anything wrong if you bot too. There's a tiny bit of client-side rate limiting and originally i had server side rate limiting too, but I got rid of that a while ago (I was cutting anything I could to speed things up).
The question is under what circumstances should that game switch to the next version. The idea I had was if all 1Million boxes are unchecked, but this is the internet someone would make it their life’s mission to keep one box checked.
IDK, I think you hinted upon something fun that we all like, it’s the Twitch vs thing, where everyone can interact and our total capacity makes the experience. This is also like the reddit/r/place which was also very fun.
I think you have a genuinely interesting idea, how can you grow it, nurture and change it to hit the true itch of humanity?
(Maybe I am too dogmatic)
- super satisfying, like a bubble wrap mmo
- global fidget toy
- This is brilliant! The websocket server must be going brrr
https://x.com/itseieio/status/1805986839058079896
Makes me wonder if it's reasonable to write an algorithm to detect that.
I very quickly realized I needed some manual content moderation because some people immediately started sharing patterns that looked like dicks and swastikas lol
* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40801007
Pick your side folks.
Then got a message:
> Chill LOL
Good advice, thanks.
but it started out empty?
this will get more interesting around half a mill checked. 427608 boxes are [√]
```
$$('input[type=checkbox]').forEach(elt => elt.click());
```
and got an alert that said "CHILL LOL". fun site
(With apologies should anyone be offended).
and we are now stuck in an endless loop due to a recursive error. damn!
Even after you send those 467k messages they need to be sent to (I assume) few thousands browsers each, so you need to wait for 467M messages to go through :D
const { chromium } = require('playwright');
(async () => { // Launch the browser const browser = await chromium.launch({ headless: false }); const context = await browser.newContext(); const page = await context.newPage();
})();I'm proud of myself for getting the chill alert without even running a script, just frantically tapping with my fingers!
seems to work for a second. no alert.
the more you check, the less freedom you have, so i am in favor of leaving some boxes unchecked. especially the boxes that contain my private stuff.
and that makes me think of a new version of the game: actually hide treasures in some of the boxes. cookies, and also colored keys. keys allow you to lock (or unlock) boxes of a matching color. each key can only be used once.
Vote Unchecked in November!
Could I boost it to 2-5x time with a simple JS script? Sure. However I figured rate limits were in place/that wasn't the spirit of...whatever this is.
Reminds me of Peter Molyneux's Curiousity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity%3A_What%27s_Inside_t...
That's probably one of these reasons that cross your mind to justify buying new domains. Which is an addiction to some folks (including me)
async function main(){ let elems = Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("#root > div > div.grid > div input")).filter(v=>!v.checked) for(let ee of elems){ await (new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(() => { resolve() }, 500))) ee.click() } }
main()