Any business people here that can explain why companies announce products a year before their release? I can understand getting consumers excited but it also tells competitors what you are doing giving them time to make changes of their own. What's the advantage here?
Xe3P as far as I remember is built in their own fabs as opposed to xe3 at TSMC. This could give them a huge advantage by being possibly the only competitor not competing for the same TSMC wafers
I have no idea of the likely price, but (IMO) this is the sort of disruption that Intel needs to aim at if it's going to make some sort of dent in this market. If they could release this for around the price of a 5090, it would be very interesting.
> If they could release this for around the price of a 5090
This is not targeted at consumers. It’s competing with nVidia’s high RAM workstation cards. Think $10K price range, not $1-2K.
The 160GB of LPDDR5X chips alone is expensive enough that they couldn’t release this at the $2K price point unless they felt like giving it away (which they don’t)
In the back of my head floats $200 - $300 for the 64 GiB GDDR7 that you get for spending 7k-10k on an ADA 6000 96 GiB instead of 2k for a 5090 32 GiB. Am I off?
Is LPDDR5X more expensive?
They better watch the price because you can get a 128GB AMD Strix Halo mini pc for ~1700-2000 today, and those will be even cheaper a year from now. If they're trying to be competitive then it really needs to be more in that ballpark than the massively overpriced Nvidia range.
I’m personally just thinking about how they treated their embedded Keem Bay line. Totally shitcanned without warning. I doubt they consider this a core market to the degree that they will endure bad sales numbers for a while.
Funny they still call them graphics cards when they're really... I dont know, matmul cards ? Tensor cards ? TPU ?
Well that sums it up maybe, what those are are really CUDA cards.
It'll be either "cheap" like the DGX Spark (with crap memory bandwidth) or overpriced with the bus width of a M4 Max with the rhetoric of Intel's 50% margin.
Any discussion of an intel entry to discrete graphics cards needs to at least _mention_ intel's repeated history of abandoning discrete graphics cards.
the GPU market is not what it used to be, it's not some checkbox some executive needs to check to say "we are doing something".
the chips are so valuable now NVIDIA will end up owning a chunk of every major tech company, everyone is throwing cash and shares at them as fast as they can.
Honestly, Intel just has to build a GPU with insane amount of VRAM. It doesn't even have to be the fastest to compete... just a ton of vram for dirt cheap
What price is this sitting at? Because if its software support is decent then Intel might have just managed to break into the hardware for AI on the edge. Examples like self hosted LLM finetuning and RAG on a old dell or HP server with these type of cards on them.
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[ 3.9 ms ] story [ 57.4 ms ] threadIf you're planning a supercomputer to be built in 2027, you want to look at what's on the roadmap.
This is not targeted at consumers. It’s competing with nVidia’s high RAM workstation cards. Think $10K price range, not $1-2K.
The 160GB of LPDDR5X chips alone is expensive enough that they couldn’t release this at the $2K price point unless they felt like giving it away (which they don’t)
Makes me wonder whether Gelsinger put all this in motion, or if the new CEO lit a fire under everyone. Kinda a shame if it's the former...
the chips are so valuable now NVIDIA will end up owning a chunk of every major tech company, everyone is throwing cash and shares at them as fast as they can.
To me, the price point is what matters. It's going to be slow with ddr5. The 5090 today is much faster. But sure big ram.
RTX pro 6000 with 96gb of ram will be much faster.
So I'm thinking price point is below the 6000, above the 5090.