Thanks for sharing. Michael Bury also shorted S&P 500 in Sep 2023 and closed his position in Nov 2023 for a nice payoff… he seems to know what he is doing.
The market will correct before mid-terms next year. This is almost a certainty. By how much and when exactly - now, that's where the shorting profits are.
PS. Burry infamously made several more bets after the "big short", bets that misfired. That is, his record is far from being 100% right.
A buddy of mine and I have been watching as investors he follows have been saying the market is going to have a major correction in the next 3-6 months for 3 years now. It definitely seems like the market is due for a major correction, but it sure hasn't happened despite repeated projections. The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
I'm not sure the bet is as big as it seems from the headline. When you buy options, you pay a fixed premium to get the right to buy/sell a very large value of shares, called the notional. But the notional is not what you are losing if it goes wrong, you lose the premium. The premium can be quite a small number compared to the notional.
Just because something is expensive doesn’t mean you should short it via puts as Burry had done. Both Palantir and Nvidia have high IVs. You’re paying for that. You’re much better off looking for cheaper puts on securities with enough correlation. Since Volmageddon and pandemic craze, deep OTM options have been scalped to death. Rarely good value. Nvidia also didn’t report earnings yet which means you’re paying for that risk event. Not saying bullish or bearish. It’s all speculation BOTH ways.
The problem with these kinds of bets is the Fed Put. That's the invisible force levitating stocks. I don't really see that changing unless/until the country genuinely enters a debt or currency crisis. The path is unsustainable, but they'll keep it going as long as they possibly can.
Burry was right about a scam. AI is not a scam. His short positions could simply be a conviction on rate of growth. If he was truly shorting it into collapse, then I'd say he's misguided here.
There are also other factors that affect Nvidia. Any move on Taiwan can collapse Nvidia's price down to zero. Hyperscalers can also shift orders over to AMD, Intel, ARM and Broadcom. This is inevitable, but you can't be too early with this.
Lastly. I don't know how technical Burry is. If you showed him LLM tech in 2017, would he have recognized it? There are things about this tech that he may not even recognize even if you showed it to him. You can literally show some people full generated video and they still wouldn't get how much compute it takes to do that.
Finally, the world is not just a giant Tulip bubble. There's actually trillions of dollars moving around every day and people innovate and consume. It's not just a giant Ponzi scheme waiting to collapse.
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As for Palantir, as many have mentioned, I would not consider shorting Palantir until year three of this administration. Palantir may lose favoritism with the next administration. Maybe. As we witnessed with the MAG7 CEOs, these people are prepared to change their entire value set to win the business of those in power.
As my friend likes to say, Michael Burry has predicted 20 of the last 1 crashes. I saw some apocryphal analysis that showed you'd be beating the S&P 500 (and by a decent margin) if you bought every time he predicted a market crash since the recession.
The implication here is that there's a prediction of a crash, but this could equally just be a hedge. Fund managers don't want their whole fund to become devalued if AI-driven valuations collapse. A put against Nvidia helps de-correlated the fund value from AI values.
A bet against Nvidia is smart. A bet against Palantir is not. Palantir has become deeply integrated into the surveillance states of America, and won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
My two cents... He might think the bubble is about to burst; he might be hedging his downside risk after a serious rise in his overall portfolio, picking the two stocks he thinks are the most out of whack valuation-wise to execute that hedge (the premium for the puts would likely be a fraction of the paper gain he's sitting on so not the end of the world if they expire worthless); he might be hedging significant material gains in these exact two stocks; he might be doing it for some only-billionaires-get-it reason. I guess I'm just saying that the reason could be pretty detached from "I think the bubble is about to burst!"
What is the expiry of those options? And how much of his capital is he betting on them? If I'm not mistaken, what made the big short spectacular was him betting the farm on it. Otherwise, wouldn't it be just another day in the office for him?
There is no way a crash happens when everybody thinks it's going to happen. The 2008 prediction was notable because, as shown in the movie, his bet was so contrarian people were refusing to write about it)
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 67.8 ms ] threadPS. Burry infamously made several more bets after the "big short", bets that misfired. That is, his record is far from being 100% right.
That margin call could obliterate him.
Also, this is not an argument in favor of Nvidia or Palantir.
There are also other factors that affect Nvidia. Any move on Taiwan can collapse Nvidia's price down to zero. Hyperscalers can also shift orders over to AMD, Intel, ARM and Broadcom. This is inevitable, but you can't be too early with this.
Lastly. I don't know how technical Burry is. If you showed him LLM tech in 2017, would he have recognized it? There are things about this tech that he may not even recognize even if you showed it to him. You can literally show some people full generated video and they still wouldn't get how much compute it takes to do that.
Finally, the world is not just a giant Tulip bubble. There's actually trillions of dollars moving around every day and people innovate and consume. It's not just a giant Ponzi scheme waiting to collapse.
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As for Palantir, as many have mentioned, I would not consider shorting Palantir until year three of this administration. Palantir may lose favoritism with the next administration. Maybe. As we witnessed with the MAG7 CEOs, these people are prepared to change their entire value set to win the business of those in power.
people need basic options education..
How many bad predictions does he need to make before people stop caring what he has to say?