Fertility rate is an incredibly misleading name. The rate is referencing the number of children people are having, not their physical ability to have them.
pde5 inhibitors have some dangerous interactions other medications. They also give some people headaches, up to and including migraines. I agree, they will probably end up in some techies nootropic stacks in the near future, I would use them for that. But they can cause blood pressure issues.
Partial doses of cialis use is also a thing in the bodybuilding world
For those curious, be mindful that an all too common side effect of pde5 inhibitors like cialis is eventual tinnitus (even at low doses), which is not worth whatever you are hoping gain.
Because it has other side effects, ones it was initially designed for: vasodilation. It can, therefore, drop your blood pressure to an unsafe level if you take too much, which can be deadly.
Gimme a f-ing break. It's way better for everyone if sketchy gas station boner pills and like products have traces real medications in them vs whatever unregulated and questionably sourced synthetic drugs and supplements they have before.
I know someone who ended up in the hospital for taking a normal dose of Viagra to counteract coke dick. Turns out that's very dangerous. I'd be pretty bummed if I wanted a "natural alternative" for this very reason but ended up with cardiac arrest
You don't think that the use of a prescription medication that has an effect on blood flow could have unexpected interactions with illicit substances like cocaine and whatever else it was cut with?
Why are people so dismissive of the potential side-effects of a drug like viagra?
Viagra absolutely participates. Cocaine causes intense arterial constriction, which impedes blood ejection from the heart. Viagra causes intense venous dilation, which reduces the amount of blood returning to the heart. This combination is very well-known and pretty lethal. Such cases are seen regularly in the ER. A colleague of mine died of it too.
I once took some "natural and organic sleeping ingredients" and there was a recall due to it containing a highly potent and dangerous prescription only ingredient.
It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine.
> It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine.
I don’t think that follows from two anecdotes. There is plenty of natural remedies which have an effect. Just thinking of the simplest, least controversial one: packing citrus fruits for a long voyage does indeed prevent scurvy.
> It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine
There are a surprising number of herbs that do something within the body. However, that something is usually mild and mixed in with a large number of other effects. Supplement companies now play games where they try to extract, isolate, and condense the natural product into those active chemicals with various degrees of success, but even the extracts don’t escape the problems of off-target effects and liver or kidney load.
I was surprised to hear from a doctor about how often they see patients who choose traditional Chinese medicine or other herbalist practices and end up with elevated liver markers or signs of kidney trouble.
The supplement world is also embracing a lot of gray market medications now. You can buy “supplements” that are actually just experimental drugs that haven’t been fully researched yet, but some enterprising person had a lab in China synthesized it and now sells it on their website.
For a while, supplement vendors were even synthesizing commercial drugs and then just selling them as powders, amazingly. You could go buy little jars of drugs like Memantine (a prescription medication) from supplement vendors. The current mod team of /r/Nootropics on Reddit also runs one of the popular supplement vendors on Reddit (surprise) and they were recently hit for breaking some laws around labeling their supplements, which is a slap on the wrist relative to their past history of selling full pharmaceuticals, addictive substances like phenibut, and opioid medications like Tianeptine as “supplements”
Of course, they cracked down on any threads discussing their legal troubles on Reddit and they’ve replaced it with stories about how they’re actually the victims, with a lot of bans being handed out on /r/Nootropics for people who disagreed. It’s wild to witness how the supplement industry works and how effectively they’ve captured online discussion in their favor.
yeah sorry. bad joke and referance to C's (Cigarettes) being laced... years ago there was an issue with PCP laced Cigarettes... my fried brain made a connection with that and Viagra laces cigarettes... PP C's
just ignore me. it was a bad joke with a weak link.
It's not flooding into France by itself, people are buying it on the black market. Which suggests that this product alleviates a customer pain point ;) which apparently the government could not solve the official way.
Well, of course people would like OTC meds for erectile dysfunction. Unfortunately, Viagra and friends must be controlled due to dangerous side-effects. But most people won't ever understand that. They'll just say it's the bad docs wanting more money...
I would assume that those side-effects aren't quite as bad, or else why are Denmark and the UK allowing sales without any prescription or doctor's visit? Someone from France could legally drive up to Denmark, buy the stuff, and drive back home. (about 9 hours per direction)
Well, it's a fact that you're at high risk of a problem with those meds if you have a cardiac, renal or neurologic medical problem. Now, personally and as a doc myself I'm perfectly open to people taking whatever they like if they're aware of the risks they take. I didn't know Viagra was OTC in some countries, but if accompanied by proper warnings, I'm ok with that. And some states are too, it seems. I'm not an expert in the matter, so it's possible I overestimate the risk.
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[ 2.2 ms ] story [ 87.6 ms ] thread(I don't necessarily support this, but I can only imagine this recall create a short term black market).
Partial doses of cialis use is also a thing in the bodybuilding world
For those curious, be mindful that an all too common side effect of pde5 inhibitors like cialis is eventual tinnitus (even at low doses), which is not worth whatever you are hoping gain.
Why are people so dismissive of the potential side-effects of a drug like viagra?
There is no such thing as a drug with no negative consequences for taking too much.
If some “natural” ingredient has an effect and isn’t being regulated, who knows how much, how potent, or how consistent the dose is.
“Natural” doesn’t mean safe.
Nobody is asking for that.
Just a different drug that doesn't have the same interactions.
Hm ok...
Nobody should be buying one product and getting different ingredients inside.
It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine.
I don’t think that follows from two anecdotes. There is plenty of natural remedies which have an effect. Just thinking of the simplest, least controversial one: packing citrus fruits for a long voyage does indeed prevent scurvy.
https://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm
There are a surprising number of herbs that do something within the body. However, that something is usually mild and mixed in with a large number of other effects. Supplement companies now play games where they try to extract, isolate, and condense the natural product into those active chemicals with various degrees of success, but even the extracts don’t escape the problems of off-target effects and liver or kidney load.
I was surprised to hear from a doctor about how often they see patients who choose traditional Chinese medicine or other herbalist practices and end up with elevated liver markers or signs of kidney trouble.
The supplement world is also embracing a lot of gray market medications now. You can buy “supplements” that are actually just experimental drugs that haven’t been fully researched yet, but some enterprising person had a lab in China synthesized it and now sells it on their website.
For a while, supplement vendors were even synthesizing commercial drugs and then just selling them as powders, amazingly. You could go buy little jars of drugs like Memantine (a prescription medication) from supplement vendors. The current mod team of /r/Nootropics on Reddit also runs one of the popular supplement vendors on Reddit (surprise) and they were recently hit for breaking some laws around labeling their supplements, which is a slap on the wrist relative to their past history of selling full pharmaceuticals, addictive substances like phenibut, and opioid medications like Tianeptine as “supplements”
Of course, they cracked down on any threads discussing their legal troubles on Reddit and they’ve replaced it with stories about how they’re actually the victims, with a lot of bans being handed out on /r/Nootropics for people who disagreed. It’s wild to witness how the supplement industry works and how effectively they’ve captured online discussion in their favor.
just ignore me. it was a bad joke with a weak link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-g3kuJ2cE
"Viagra in the Water"
Killer Hornets:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=killer+hornets&ia=web