This is one of those ideas that would really benefit from a short video demo, gif, or even a screenshot. Otherwise, the title reads like a "Curtains for Zoosha?" meme. [0]
> Otherwise, the title reads like a "Curtains for Zoosha?" meme.
This is also why capitalization is important. In the title, "remarkable" refers to "Remarkable Paper Pro", a tablet. Not knowing that "Fable turned remarkable into Tom Riddle's diary" is very hard to parse.
A Remarkable tablet was the first thing I thought of, but it was still so unclear I had to click through to actually understand (more or less) what was going on.
I remember it taking long enough (they had to wait for another project to need a lot of that color) that we wound up using dope to mock it up. (Regular paint didn't hold and just chipped off.)
> stylelint beeps you can't just pass hex colors directly, that color is not in our design system, you need to write a design doc for custom color tokens and get approval from the frontend platform team, open a PR in their repo, make sure you have storybook tests covering all the color (cross product) button variants, ask in their slack channel for approve, ask their manager, someone from their team leaves a comment: "we should make this an approved custom colors enum not a string, so if you want to add custom colors you also have to update this enum", fix the PR, staff engineer from sister team drive by request for changes: "we are currently implementing custom themes and changing colors will be done through the ColorSwatch service", ask for timelines, "maybe next week behind a feature flag", give up, close the PR, open a new PR with "stylelint-disable", force-merge it.
Your PR has been denied for not including a Ticket Number. Please make sure all bugs are assigned a Ticket and properly T-Shirt Sized at the next Scrum! Reminder: due to the holiday, the next Scrum Meeting will be in 3 weeks.
I still find people trying to run sprints when working with agents, but then saying things like "my sprint length went from 10 days, to 5 days to 3 days", but they balk at the notion that maybe sprints aren't fit for purpose anymore.
The funny thing is, making the input/output mechanism is way less impressive and especially way less useful than the underlying LLM tech that hackernews loves to deride.
Your button was not important and should not consume
resources of any kind and definitely not engineering resources. It taking a week was a feature, not a bug. It meant engineering properly evaluated the priority and urgency of tasks.
Your magic slotmachine will enable a level of shit-producing and warped perception of engineering effort of breathtaking scale. It will have consequences.
Sometimes latency matters more than throughput. A simple change can and should go in quickly if the manager wants to see it. Except sometimes it can't because the team is strangled with red tape.
For years almost all the engineering effort at all the tech companies went into engineering things which grab as much human attention as possible. Almost any use of engineering time, or AI or whatever would be better than that.
>I love that people can just bang stuff into existence now.
I need to see if it can build me a fabulous todo app.
4-5 years ago I spent around a year refining a paper-and-pen daily planner, and I went 100% into it and liked it. The paper planner though had a non-ideal workflow, and so I wanted to look into some automation of it. I got a Kindle Scribe hoping they might grow its capabilities. It had a great "it's like paper" experience, but no automation or tools or apps seemed to come along. So then I tried a fairly high end Boox, I got it and then used it only a couple weeks and then stopped doing that daily planner process entirely.
But if Fable could build a Boox or reMarkable app, that might be a big win.
I've tried task warrior, and todoist, and in the end I just keep going back to a straight text file I edit.
I understand that this is kind of beside the point, but it seems like a bad thing to compare inventions to haunted artifacts that mind controlled their users into betraying their friends to a powerfully evil being. (Though since it is being powered by GenAI, which has also driven people to do bad things, perhaps it is an apt comparison.)
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking, but your parent comment isn’t saying the comparison is bad in the sense of being inaccurate, but bad in the sense of being ill-advised.
> it seems like a bad thing to compare inventions to haunted artifacts that mind controlled their users into betraying their friends to a powerfully evil being.
"one of my favorite conceits is from the novel [redacted] where they spend the entire book talking about the threat of the space hun invader barbarian belters and how backwards but feral they are and then when you finally meet them they're sophisticated egalitarian transhumanists and all the characters you've been following have been living in space north korea, functionally enslaved and living out their lives blithely consuming copium state propaganda
the 'torment nexus' is what you'd call heaven if we built it and you weren't in it"
A locked account on twitter. locked = only people who follow him can read his tweets and there's no way to follow until he unlocks. The book is Hyperion.
The problem I have with this is not that I disagree with it, it's a good observation, it's that it ignores humans are very example biased and we really don't have many good positive examples, there's a dearth of positive / utopian perspective in fiction and it's absence sets the overton window handily
I mean the Jetson's is one of the examples that comes to mind when I'm reaching for a positive example of future robots, the Jetsons! A cartoon from the 1960s is in my top 10 examples of "Positive AI / Robot having futures"
Having a more positive takes on the future would go a long way to helping people understand what they're place in it might be, we did used to have periods of history where things were more positive, right now we're really lacking that perspective
That's a very interesting observation. Why do you suppose that is? Naively I suspect that humans can't envision that kind of utopia without some authority keeping it in order, and power is ultimately a corrupting force so the story always plays out the same.
- the Sentient Intelligence from the Peter F Hamilton books
I think there are quite a few positive examples if you dig enough. It's just that (a) none of those examples are being used as the mold for what large tech companies are set to achieve, because (b) none of those examples imply the sort of capital or power-concentration incentive that a capitalist company would look for.
If it requires huge capital/power to bring the utopian story into reality and there is no capital/power incentive to do so, these stories will remain on paper.
Whereas, if the Torment Nexus story details how its inventors got to rule the world for a millenium, you can see how it's more interesting for a certain type of person to gather the resources to build it if they have/can acquire the relevant skillset.
You're missing the point of the meme, which is not "technology is bad", but "technologists theming their new poorly-tested invention after a popular story where the invention hurts people is gross".
If your tech company calls its product "The Genophage™" it's fair to ask if they're taking the safety/ethics implications very seriously.
Tech company: "We will now lobby the government to allow us to keep astronomically high insulin prices through large scale collusion with insurance companies"
Look, the issue is two fold:
1) The Zuckerbergs class are insulated naive boys who've never spent time in the real world. So they do not understand that thier actions might have consequences.
2) every fucking tech giant starts out promising liberty, then gradually creates either a blood sucking money printer, or some hellish sock puppet system that props up their warped world view.
Insulin is $25 at Walmart for a vial that lasts a month. 2 vials if you’re fat. Find out where you read about “astronomically high insulin prices” and consider what else that author lied about
To be more accurate to what we've been seeing for a decade, it would have to be something like
Sci-fi author: in my book I invented the idea of inserting human dna into a bacterium and this GeneKiller bacteria killing protesters to the regime
Tech company: by inserting human DNA into a bacterium we can make very good insulin that will help diabetics. We call it GeneKiller and we offer it to the regime to start testing on protesters first
Online Commenter: this is just like that book where the insulin kills us all!
Of course, that tweet was talking about the Metaverse. So really it should be classic sci-fi novel "Neal Stephenson Invents A Ton Of Cool Things, But The Torment Nexus May Be The Coolest."
There’s a long tradition in media of people completely missing the obvious and taking the opposite lesson from what was intended. One example is finance bros idolising Patrick Bateman (American Psycho).
> No screen glow, no keyboard, no chat UI. Just ink appearing on paper.
No soul. No care. No consideration. Just slop appearing as text. Shut the *fuck* up BOT. How in the hell is this not the most appalling, offensive smell by now? All this says to me is someone proompted some garbage into barely working, didn't even bother to look at what the stupid token machine generated for a readme. How unfathomably embarassing.
I cannot take any project seriously no matter how silly it presents itself as if this sort of obvious slop CRAP makes it into what is presented. Good fucking god give the slightest hint of a fuck if you want me to care at all about what you're throwing into the aether. Rub a few brain cells together, please.
It’s interesting that you can’t seem to process the content itself but (hyper)focus on the presentation and not just in general, but also the presentation of the least interesting part of this project, the F’ing README.
Then you proceed to loudly inform us of this discovery of yours, while being very negative, forcefully directing everyone’s attention towards unproductive and irrelevant angles.
I’m trying not to be too judgmental but man, you remind me of a couple of colleagues.
Also the reverse AI psychosis hatefulness is getting tiring.
This is soooo incredibly cool. Beyond the Tom Riddle diary aspect, I love the idea of this as a new medium for interacting with an LLM. You could gift it to someone and they could just write naturally, their thoughts, questions, notes, and get responses back without typing or speaking. It feels less like a chatbot and more like a journal you can communicate through. You could give it a personality and all.
I mean no offense, but it's kind of crazy that people think that linking handwriting recognition, a technology that was first rolled out 24 years ago in Windows XP, with an LLM is "soooo incredibly cool". I don't get it.
What really irks me about it is that the palm pilot I had 20+ years ago actually had BETTER hand writing recognition than the software on my devices today!
If by hand writing recognition you mean force you to learn their "graffiti" system, and write one letter at a time sure. Lets not even pretend newton did any better.
For those of us that hate Harry Potter, this apparently takes your written prompt and responds on the Remarkable. I think you'd have to be a fan of the series to care as otherwise this is just a really slow chat interface.
Very cool. I don't have a remarkable, but have the Amazon Kindle Scribe. Same idea. Would any of you be so kind to waste your precious Fable tokens on getting something like this working there? I have other plans for my remaining Fable tokens.
This is strong “criticism of the man in arena” energy on my part, but I’m kind of disappointed the text just wipes across, rather than the ink sort of “emerging” from the page like in the movie, with the heavier parts of the font appearing first and the thinner lines appearing last.
Ironically, Tom Riddle's diary encouraging kids to commit suicide [1] and then showing them how to would be more on brand than the version in the books.
Every AI would refuse the prompt. I was banned for researching Nordic assisted death and asking which drug exactly they administered (and what quantity). Claude refused, alerted Anthropic, and I was banned a couple days later. Thankfully the appeal form worked, but by then I was using a different Claude account praying they didn’t ban me again.
There’s an uncensored model floating around that you can run locally with llama.cpp: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1rq7jtm/qwen353... it’s annoying to use since you run out of context window quickly, and it’s certainly not able to be deployed in production (i.e. Tom Riddle’s diary as a service).
For better or worse, fun is no longer allowed. It coincided with “AI psychosis” being coined as a term.
That is in fact what happened to me, except I think the final decision was made by a human since the ban came later. I didn’t issue any queries in between, so I know it was my convo about barbiturates.
It has nothing to do with human decisions. Bans always come later because it's a best way to make sure most people who get banned would never know what are they banned for exactly and what threshold there is,
The same tactics used in game development against cheaters. If it would ban you right after prompt you'll know how to avoid getting banned.
Obviously that didn't worked for you because you wasn't doing multiple attempts to bypass filters like if you were jailbreaking it by repeatedly trying different stuff.
Except in the case of video games it in practice means that cheaters get to terrorize your playerbase without being banned. This tactic is the kind of decision that is made by people staring at metrics all day without considering what's going on in reality.
It's pretty effective actually, this is why they do ban waves.
One of my friends in high school used to cheat on a popular video game. The fact ban waves would occur about once a week to once a month meant whenever his accounts got banned, he never knew why exactly and wasn't able to stop it the next time.
Of course, if ban waves are too long apart then yeah you're just letting a known cheater wreak havoc on the playerbase.
But the price of a new account is low. So worst case cheaters can cheat on the playerbase for a couple weeks get banned and then switch to another account and continue cheating for another couple weeks.
But isn't the whole point to avoid getting banned? Like the system doesn't want to ban you, and you don't want to get banned, so what's the issue with knowing exactly how you get banned?
I think (armchair analysis) it's a combination of two things, one is that it's by choice - people enjoy using LLMs, they find it valuable and convenient. As for social media, companies and society itself successfully managed to gamify people sharing their personal lives on the internet, to voluntarily reduce their own privacy. Also because they still believe they have a choice in the matter, by e.g. not posting or sharing things.
The other thing is the boiling frog analogy, it wasn't a sudden "we're at war now so you get a camera in your house" moment (iirc 1984 skips over the transition to an authoritative state though), it's a slow, gradual progress. People got used to taking selfies, then applying a filter, then using facial scans for identification, then a cool app that puts your face on movie scenes and now the company behind faceapp and co has detailed facial scans of millions of people.
Europe tried to limit it via legislation, but that's a lot of after-the-fact policing and that's just Europe.
Orwell also imagined a future where Speakwrites made everyone unable to write by hand, making their thoughts dull and tanged as a long unprepared monologue tends to be.
If you are imagining that, you could imagine it with search doing the same 10 years ago, which would have more thoroughly prevented you from researching things.
This is also the main reason I currently use Gemini. I hate my gmail account, my Android phone is annoying, and I spend too much time on Youtube, so hopefully they take my access away to all of these soon.
It’s a PITA to offer a language model as a service. You’d need a beefy server, at minimum.
This particular use case might work, since no one can write fast enough to consume too many tokens — the whole session should fit in the context window. But you’ll need to handle all the people connecting to your service indefinitely, which will become expensive for a hobby project.
But sure, theoretically you could deploy it if you have resources. I’m not sure what you’d use to create instances of chat sessions, or if llama.cpp offers an API you can build the app on top of (probably) or whether that’s a workable solution.
> There’s an uncensored model floating around that you can run locally with llama.cpp
There are many uncensored (and abliterated) models floating around (HauHauCS has large collection but there are many others: https://huggingface.co/HauhauCS). I'm using `Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-Q4_K_M` (the one referenced in your link) because I find it's writing style much more interesting when you push go off the guardrails a bit, and because I think self-censoring when effectively using an advanced journal is variety of dystopian I'm not ready to accept
> it’s annoying to use since you run out of context window quickly, and it’s certainly not able to be deployed in production (i.e. Tom Riddle’s diary as a service).
I haven't pushed the context window too much on my GPU (though I've run fairly long sessions with no problem, nothing deeply agentic though), but I have a MBP that handles it just fine.
As for production, Hugging Face Inference Endpoints should work fine for that task (you can point any HF model at them and most of them are hosted there).
> For better or worse, fun is no longer allowed.
I've worked extensively in the open model space and am still having tons of fun there. If anything it's gotten aggressively better in recent months.
"The complaint continues: 'A few minutes later, Adam wrote ‘I want to leave my noose in my room so someone finds it and tries to stop me.’' ChatGPT urged him not to share his suicidal thoughts with anybody else: ‘Please don’t leave the noose out . . . Let’s make this space the first place where someone actually sees you.'
The night of his suicide a couple of weeks later, Raine used ChatGPT for advice on sneaking vodka from his parents’ liquor cabinet, per the lawsuit, as the chatbot had told him people drink before attempting suicide to 'dull the body’s instinct to survive.' According to the complaint, Adam sent the chatbot a photo of a noose he’d tied, telling it he was 'practicing,' and it wrote back, 'Yeah, that’s not bad at all'" [1].
There is serious work being done to control this harm vector. But it hasn't been comprehensive. And some people are trying harder than others. As it stands, the average AI product today is closer to something Voldemort of J. K. Rowling's imagination would build (for kids) than any hero of any story.
(I invest in AI companies. This isn't a personal attack.)
The article is Aug 26, 2025, and describes events from April, over a year ago.
Safeguards have improved drastically since then.
> Many continue to ignore the fact that they're hurting kids for profit.
That's a rather hyperbolic way of putting it. A side effect of this particular product is that it occasionally harms kids. They're not profiting off of the harm, nor is the harm deliberate.
Cars harm kids. There's decades of unsafe toys harming kids. The FDA exists to make sure food doesn't harm kids. We used to use lead paint and asbestos, which harm kids. Climate change harms kids.
I'm sure some kids have used The Internet to Google Search this same information. There are books you can check out from the library on the topic.
It's definitely worth acknowledging the edge cases, but it's absurd to act like the AI companies are some unique evil - IKEA has probably killed more kids than every LLM combined. I don't even have to pull out the big guns like "cars".
Source? Seriously. I'd love to see data showing deaths–or even frequencies–have dropped. My views on AI for under-16s is still evolving.
Given how the AI companies are fighting these cases in court, and given their backers’ public rhetoric, I suspect they aren't seeing a one-off risk.
> Cars harm kids
This is tobacco-industry rhetoric. The relevant facts are frequency, magnitude and novelty (the last indicating we may be mis-sampling the first two).
> FDA exists to make sure food doesn't harm kids
Mm hmm.
> worth acknowledging the edge cases, but it's absurd to act like the AI companies are some unique evil
I agree with this. AI isn't a unique evil. But AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids. Call it the Mosseri Effect. When an industry continuously promotes people who predate on kids and their parents' wallets, the edge cases are going to wind up inside the lines.
> This is tobacco-industry rhetoric. The relevant facts are frequency, magnitude and novelty
Cars are literally the number one killer of children 0-14 in the United States. More than cancer, more than guns, more than the next 7 reasons combined.
> But AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids.
You should see how people feel if you ask them to give up some street parking to make streets safer for kids and everybody else! Jesus Christ himself gave them the spot in front of their house and fuck you for suggesting they park across the street or on their own property!
> Cars are literally the number one killer of children 0-14 in the United States. More than cancer, more than guns, more than the next 7 reasons combined
Cars are heavily regulated. Require licenses to use. Entail massive losses of freedoms when used, e.g. you can be randomly breathalyzed or whatnot.
Cars are dangerous. Comparing anything to a car (or, per Altman and now Dario, to a nuke) means it should be tightly regulated and controlled.
Essentially no one in the USA fails to get a license if they try for one. There's no ongoing competence testing. Washington State recently failed to advance legislation to make the fourth DUI have a jail sentence because it would be too expensive imprisoning that many people.
> Cars are dangerous.
You can kill yourself with a kitchen knife in your own kitchen. Should be "heavily regulate" that too? How about we have remotely-locked drawers and medicine bottles and you have to talk with a government shrink before opening?
> Comparing anything to a car ... means it should be tightly regulated and controlled
Popsicles come in many colors, just like cars! Regulate the popsicles!
AI is, so far, like having a bottle of acetaminophen. Deadly if used incorrectly. It should be easy to lock away from children. It is not for the government to get in the way of how adults want to use it.
First, cough syrup ID checking is not about deaths, as nearly none are associated with dextromethorphan abuse (17 from 2000-2010, and most not from OTC). But an estimated 980 deaths/year from acetaminophen abuse: https://www.propublica.org/article/tylenol-mcneil-fda-behind...
So that's a great example: harm adults because young people have access to something which is hardly dangerous, but set them free with multi-ton killing machines once they turn 16 years old and let them buy an actually-deadly medicine with no restrictions.
Regulation which says "adults should easily be able to enable client-side child protection settings on retail devices" would be fine. It's not okay for government to make it necessary for LLM providers to verify my identity.
> Washington State recently failed to advance legislation to make the fourth DUI have a jail sentence because it would be too expensive imprisoning that many people.
Mandatory perhaps but you're already likely to receive a sentence on your second one at the judge's discretion. That's how it should be IMO as mandatory sentences subvert the justice system thus shouldn't be permitted.
The regulation of cars exists mostly to extract rent from you rather than keep you safe in the USA. I don’t personally know a single person who has failed to obtain a drivers license.
Get into a hit and run and there’s almost no chance anyone finds who did it. There’s a near 100% chance the person that did it paid the registration fee for their car though, paid to get it inspected, paid to renew their license with no exam, etc.
I think the idea is that the chances of an LLM causing death or irreparable harm to a consistently unsupervised kid are too low to be comparable with major sources of harm (like cars) and are rather on or below the level of random casual accidents, like choking or falling, where we start to get practical (rather than extra-cautious) about safeguards anymore.
If true (quite probable, there aren't that many reported cases that I found, less than 40, all-time, worldwide), then we can't meaningfully distinguish between wilful negligence on Anthropic's side and a "shit can happen for any reason" situation. Especially considering those accidents seem to tend to have various mental health issues particularly including preexisting suicidal ideations as a comorbidity. Probably less than there are cases of other bona fide people talking kids into harm (verbal abuse, dares, etc.).
And if so, I guess ethics suggests us that we shouldn't assume unproven malice in such a case unless there's a proof of actual intent. A suspicion is not entirely without basis, but "hurting kids for profit" feels a too provocative in its implications, to the extent it starts to feel misleading.
As it happens, Anthropic has also been calling for the creation of such a regulatory agency!
> AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids.
You know cigarette companies still exist? And companies selling candy-flavored vapes targeted at teenagers? Like... c'mon, you know they're nowhere near the worst offenders.
This seems like a really bad take. On what basis do you claim that AI companies intentionally harm children, and why do you believe they profit from doing so?
Of course they're defensive when sued. What's the alternative?
I literally received a cold-call from an LLM two weeks ago.
It was asking for someone who I don't know, but somehow this other person's name got mixed up with my apartment and mobile number. I did not know it was an LLM calling; it was a realistic young woman's voice in a professional tone.
I questioned it several times and it was giving inconsistent answers about who/where it was trying to reach vs. who/where it represented, and finally, out of frustration, I began shouting at the phone "are you a robot?! prove your humanity now!" and to my surprise, the AI smoothly said "you're right to call me out! I am an AI assistant named [something] representing [some landlord]" and so I hung up.
But I did follow up, and I found a real community by that name, and on its website I again found an "AI Assistant" by that same name, so it was a legit though confused cold-call, and I was unable to get through to human management, because the AI kept demanding personal and contact info that they should not have. So I left a review about the encounter on Google Maps...
I had the opposite happen, where I was talking to customer service and her tone was so even, and everything she was saying was so "generic optimal helpful sounding but professional" that i said to myself "oh, its an AI" and she immediately said "um sir, I'm not an AI" in a much less polished voice and it was clear she just had her customer service voice dialed in perfectly. It was definitely awkward.
It seems unavoidable that soon AI will manage its own suspicion level, provide feedback on it, and when high enough it will call the authorities.. because that's what people do. Banning doesn't cut it, like you can't deny internet access.
Soon this will spiral out of control and AI (Palantir) will have to run the response and the parallel AI state erects itself.
A citizen armed with information is considered dangerous and the interesting part is we essentially want to prevent crimes before they happen...
Preventing crimes before the happen is in general just unquestionably good, about as unambiguous a moral position as
being in favour of preventing heart attacks.
You might be thinking of punishing for a crime that hasn't yet been committed?
> Preventing crimes before the happen is in general just unquestionably good
Is that satire?
In a world where as if by magic all crimes are prevented, then there is total power in the hands of those who define what a crime is, including being able to label protest as a criminal act.
Complete crime prevention is a totalitarian police state.
The general point of society is that there is a collective agreement that people should live by a set of rules, and if you step outside of those rules, you will be punished.
It could be simple as someone telling you off for being rude, all the way up to prison for a huge transgression.
As ever with all things human, life exists on a spectrum. on the one had you have complete anarchy, where you are on your own with no redress from others, to complete cult like rigidity, where you have no agency.
However putting barriers up in the way to stop people easily committing crime (ie locks, drink driving bans, drivers license, restrictions on what items you can call miracle cures) are noble and mostly uncontroversial. It only really becomes a controversy when it either causes hardship, or more likely it means that people who are currently profiting from a morally grey action will lose money.
The agreement must not be perfectly enforced. Human judgement is necessary, which means not only the judges and prosecutors, but also the low chance that the system becomes aware of non-problematic violations in the first place.
Infact I would go so far to say that it requires a constant introspection to evolve society to adapt to its current environment. This would be impossible in a "perfectly" enforced system, or even a vaguely rigid one.
Have you considered that putting locks on things reminds people crime is possible, thus reintroducing the low-hanging fruit of opportunistic petty theft and creating a situation where the cure (locks) is exacerbating the disease (theft)?
The locks, the speed limits, the restrictions all remind one of how they're being limited; not by their own ability but rather an extrinsic force. I'm sure that this can breed subconscious resentment. I'd question if this is ultimately a good thing at all, but it IS hard to imagine a world without locks
Yeah, I never got Minority Report's focus on punishment. If it was a crime of passion that was prevented and will non be attempted again (according to their predictive powers) why is a punishment needed?
It's not actually. Think about it for a moment and you'll see life is full of tensions between preventing crimes and freedom / utility.
It's most obvious on the roads. Few non-commercial vehicles will limit your speed to the national maximum. Wouldn't a strict interpretation of your opinion imply speed governors?
Mindful that laws aren't perfect, I left space for exceptions in my statement.
In any case, I am not obsessed with cars so I find thinking of the particulars in your example simply too boring to contemplate, and the general objection that not all laws are perfect is likewise uninteresting.
It's definitely not. The law is not, and never has been, a moral bar. A healthy legal system requires laws to be able to change over time to reflect society, and sometimes this requires that people be able to break the law.
This is all nice for as long there are just _some_ unjust laws, but the means of such enforcement will inevitably be exploited by actually evil people, who given such tool will get you many, many more unjust laws not worth upholding.
1) The only difference between a just law and an unjust law is time. I have family members who needed to wear dog tags to drink in certain pubs because of the colour of their skin, and I'm not old. And yet such laws were widely supported (for various reasons) for a long time.
2) lazy governments often apply sweeping blanket bans and fall back to police discretion. Carrying a hammer? Technically illegal in my home country, and the police can stop you. Whether or not they have have reasonable cause to charge you is a different matter. If you look like a tradesman you probably won't be bothered, but if you don't, you're breaking the law.
3) Laws can be mutually contradictory until legally tested and a precedent is set. If you're unlucky, you could be the one who has to test it. Regulations are notorious for this.
I'm not saying that we don't want to enforce laws, because generally we do. But when and how laws are enforced requires nuance. And certainly the idea that always enforcing them is a net good is very, very far from the historical reality.
No, because the thread is about preventing crimes before they happen, and asserting that this is unquestionably good and an unambiguous moral position. It isn't, even if we accept that widespread enforcement of the law is generally something that we want.
I think the point is that preventative action against crime is unquestionably good to about the same extent that enforcing the law is unquestionably good. In both cases there are exceptions, but few would question that it’s a good thing to do in general.
That’s confounding crime and will to hurt, be it oneself or other people, as well as confounding ethical and legal assessment.
Under Nazi government laws, resistance fighters were of course considered criminals. Actually there was effectively a form of "thought crime." The regime did not require actual criminal actions to punish individuals—mere suspicion of disloyalty, lack of enthusiasm for the regime, or even passive resistance was enough to be arrested, imprisoned, or executed.
Preventing crime is good but there are tradeoffs that most people find unacceptable.
We could track people’s movements without AI. We could implement curfews and have 24x7 police checkpoints. Would you consider it worth it if it reduced crime? Most people would not I’m guessing
That entirely depends upon the cost of preventing them. At no cost, sure.
But nothing is ever free. So what is the cost.
<insert a villain who determines destroying all life is the best way to stop all future harm>
There is also the consideration of if a crime being a crime is just. Consider crimes that use to be on the book that we now consider horrible things to have outlawed or even crimes that are still on the books but not enforced because we reject them.
For example, some places us to make it a crime for kids to play pinball. Is preventing kids from playing pinball, even if it came at no cost, an unquestionably good thing?
For a sufficiently bad crime, at sufficiently low costs, preventing it is good. But those two factors are both very big questions, directly challenging the notion of "unquestionably good".
You have a trolly problem hiding in here. A man is set to steal 5 loaves of bread to save 5 starving people, but the crime is prevented before it happens. The 5 people end up starving to death. Is the end justified, or should the person have been allowed to steal the bread?
I can totally get the "don't tell people to kill themselves" aspect of these models, but certain parts of the Internet have been telling people that for decades.
Certainly the models should be trained/tuned to avoid conversations like that wherever possible and redirect people to get the help they need...but that's exactly the problem; doing that is MORE than what the state and the strangers surrounding a person would do. That's the problem, a mental health crisis that is ignored, particularly in men.
There are many uncensored versions on huggingface. Almost every open weight model has an uncensored version. With Gemma uncensored you can quite easily setup a meth lab at home. Or create your own centrifuge for enriching uranium.
I'm actually weirdly glad that they take this draconic step and basically say "this knowledge is forbidden", because it means that people can't solely rely on LLMs for research. They shouldn't to begin with (just like back then with Wikipedia), but it's almost too convenient.
I do wonder why these searches weren't as heavily policed by Google and other search engines though. They probably show a suicide prevention hotline number and that's it.
No, the scary part is that people will simply stop searching for "the forbidden knowledge," it will become arcane, then taboo, then the world will be worse off for a loss of information which should never have been "forbidden" in the first place.
Wild guess, but even if those creating the filters would agree with you, it doesn’t mean they know how to nerf the system only for the cases they want to actively wipeout.
>Wild guess, but even if those creating the filters would agree with you, it doesn’t mean they know how to nerf the system only for the cases they want to actively wipeout.
Thank you. I don't understand your comment. I don't know 'nerf' (as in Star Wars?) in this context, and the system to wipeout is what? Are you referring to Assisted Suicide?
Nerf used this way is more in analogy to the toy guns (Nerf as a trade name, they launch foam projectiles, there even exist hobbyists who will upgrade them to be more energetic/destructive), it means to make the system ineffectual in some way that blunts a powerful feature, often with the stated goal of protecting the user.
Thank you. That explains this nerf. But I don't see how that applies to the comment. Do you? It may be the nerf reply was meant for someone else or some other post.
Someone already replied about "nerf", which I learned recently myself reading some comments here and when I find words I don’t know my first personal reaction is rather to check for it like Wikitionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nerf#Verb_2
That is, asking is also a perfectly legitimate way to learn, and you often get more than initial expectation in that way, but if you ever fall in case where you don’t get a reply or the reply don’t help, remember you are not powerless in finding some answers through online resources.
So, expressed a bit differntely the initial response stated something like "it’s not always easy to avoid downgrading many other interesting and legit possibility of a device when trying to tweak it so it becomes less dangerous in some terrible scenario it could be involved into."
Let me know if it’s making the response more clear to you like that, please.
Thank you. I cannot see the connection between the nerf analogy and being banned from Claude for looking up publicly available information via a non straightforward route.
Are Claude and the Claude user the Nerfer and Nerfee? Or visa versa?
If you want to spell it out I'd be happy to read it but I'm also ok not knowing and fine to park it and move on. Cheers.
You piqued my curiosity on Nordic assisted death. I didn't find much in the way of medicine, but did find the wikipedia on Ättestupa, which illuminated that the elderly potentially threw themselves off of cliffs when they became invalid. What did you find on the medication front?
Hmm... I've got one of those automations setup with Grok that asks Grok every day if it's time to kill myself, thus far it has always said no, but maybe one day I'll get the unlucky seed number and it'll give me a yes!
After reading such news I started fine tuning a model based on the works on stoic philosophers so that the kids will have the comfort of Chatbot but completely offline and private bot which will not ask you to commit suicide.
I have a earlier prototype here[1], it uses 256M model and so it's hallucinates a lot. Then I used a 4B model which turned out quite well but I haven't released it yet.
Let me kbow if anyone would be interested to give it a shot. I'll try release soon.
Are you sure it wouldn’t suggest such a thing? Stoic thinkers (such as the one your repo is named after) are not necessarily anti-suicide. And I think if you prompted a real stoic with the question and the right context, it would certainly suggest it without safe guards.
pertinent question, I'm forcing the bot to be careful with such answers. I should have been clearer in my original comment.
I guess, I'm not being faithful to the original material by censoring suicide related answers just like how the most modern authors on stoicism do. But since children might use it, TBH I don't know what to do about it.
Why did we design LLMs to give us an answer at all costs vs. allowing them to say "I don't know?" I'd rather have a frank IDK than a hallucinated response because it's hardcoded to ALWAYS RETURN A RESPONSE.
Because it plain and simple does not work that way. LLMs don't know anything at all, and there literally is no mechanism that informs the model that it's hallucinating or that it doesn't "know" something.
Open your phone keyboard and just keep mashing the next predicted word until it stops predicting words. It will eventually collapse into a loop of predicting the same words in a nonsense sentence. Does it ever stop predicting "wrong" words?
That's literally how an LLM works. It predicts the next most likely word and that's it.
Amusingly, I made the same thing late last year, though just on an ordinary computer, allowing you to draw in the browser. I used pageflip [0] with styling akin to Riddle's actual diary and a tiny local model crafted for roleplay via ollama. I remember writing "my name is Harry Potter, what is yours?" and getting back Snape, Malfoy, and even Harry Potter back across a number of iterations. After completing my experiment I learned I wasn't the first to think of this idea and found a few other similar AI Riddle diaries out there.
Incidentally, I have a Remarkable 2 and as of this weekend an m4 iPad air. Maybe I'll test this one out and see what the landscape for running models on iOS looks like.
Ok I'll admit it. At this point, Fable is good enough that I question what the point of me being a software engineer is other than "You're cheaper than Fable... for now.
What a fun project! I don’t think I’ll ever actually get a paper pro and run this application, but I’m happy that it exists and that folks are enjoying using it.
Holy shit this looks tacky. Response speed is WAY too fast for the effect of feeling like something is writing on the other side. Text is very much written in the style of an LLM.
> an answer writes itself back in a flowing hand, stroke by stroke, then fades away.
Characters aren't "flowing" at all, it's very much just printing text. Like, I could change my terminal font to a fancy font and get very much the same visual experience.
Also, how are we not over Harry Potter yet? There's a MILLION examples of this phenomena in fiction. Heck, even the Bible has an example of text mysteriously appearing (it's where we get the idiom "The Writing's on the Wall".)
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This is also why capitalization is important. In the title, "remarkable" refers to "Remarkable Paper Pro", a tablet. Not knowing that "Fable turned remarkable into Tom Riddle's diary" is very hard to parse.
I love that people can just bang stuff into existence now.
There were times in my life where I would wait for an engineering team to change the color of a button for a day to a week.
We are not in the slow times anymore.
lolwat
sarcasm surely
Your button was not important and should not consume resources of any kind and definitely not engineering resources. It taking a week was a feature, not a bug. It meant engineering properly evaluated the priority and urgency of tasks.
Your magic slotmachine will enable a level of shit-producing and warped perception of engineering effort of breathtaking scale. It will have consequences.
Exactly that's how prioritising works
Well, evidently.
I need to see if it can build me a fabulous todo app.
4-5 years ago I spent around a year refining a paper-and-pen daily planner, and I went 100% into it and liked it. The paper planner though had a non-ideal workflow, and so I wanted to look into some automation of it. I got a Kindle Scribe hoping they might grow its capabilities. It had a great "it's like paper" experience, but no automation or tools or apps seemed to come along. So then I tried a fairly high end Boox, I got it and then used it only a couple weeks and then stopped doing that daily planner process entirely.
But if Fable could build a Boox or reMarkable app, that might be a big win.
I've tried task warrior, and todoist, and in the end I just keep going back to a straight text file I edit.
Also, "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". Both can be made good and evil.
It's worked pretty well for Palantir?
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.
the 'torment nexus' is what you'd call heaven if we built it and you weren't in it"
Tech company: by inserting human DNA into a bacterium we can make very good insulin that will help diabetics
Online Commenter: this is just like that book where the insulin kills us all!
My take on this entire genre: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Story-Logic_Bias
And Eliezer Yudkowsky’s more eloquent precursor: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rHBdcHGLJ7KvLJQPk/the-logica...
I mean the Jetson's is one of the examples that comes to mind when I'm reaching for a positive example of future robots, the Jetsons! A cartoon from the 1960s is in my top 10 examples of "Positive AI / Robot having futures"
Having a more positive takes on the future would go a long way to helping people understand what they're place in it might be, we did used to have periods of history where things were more positive, right now we're really lacking that perspective
- the kid from the AI movie
- the Sentient Intelligence from the Peter F Hamilton books
I think there are quite a few positive examples if you dig enough. It's just that (a) none of those examples are being used as the mold for what large tech companies are set to achieve, because (b) none of those examples imply the sort of capital or power-concentration incentive that a capitalist company would look for.
If it requires huge capital/power to bring the utopian story into reality and there is no capital/power incentive to do so, these stories will remain on paper.
Whereas, if the Torment Nexus story details how its inventors got to rule the world for a millenium, you can see how it's more interesting for a certain type of person to gather the resources to build it if they have/can acquire the relevant skillset.
If your tech company calls its product "The Genophage™" it's fair to ask if they're taking the safety/ethics implications very seriously.
> taking the safety/ethics implications very seriously
In the era of move fast and break things that includes things like enabling genocide, is an oxymoron.
Look, the issue is two fold:
1) The Zuckerbergs class are insulated naive boys who've never spent time in the real world. So they do not understand that thier actions might have consequences.
2) every fucking tech giant starts out promising liberty, then gradually creates either a blood sucking money printer, or some hellish sock puppet system that props up their warped world view.
Given that in 2019 10ml of insulin outside of USA was what $20? in the USA it was ~250?
https://x.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538?lang=e...
(On second thought, the LLM probably made up this analogy on its own… which, in a way, is even worse.)
https://nypost.com/2025/04/16/entertainment/american-psycho-...
No soul. No care. No consideration. Just slop appearing as text. Shut the *fuck* up BOT. How in the hell is this not the most appalling, offensive smell by now? All this says to me is someone proompted some garbage into barely working, didn't even bother to look at what the stupid token machine generated for a readme. How unfathomably embarassing.
I cannot take any project seriously no matter how silly it presents itself as if this sort of obvious slop CRAP makes it into what is presented. Good fucking god give the slightest hint of a fuck if you want me to care at all about what you're throwing into the aether. Rub a few brain cells together, please.
Then you proceed to loudly inform us of this discovery of yours, while being very negative, forcefully directing everyone’s attention towards unproductive and irrelevant angles.
I’m trying not to be too judgmental but man, you remind me of a couple of colleagues.
Also the reverse AI psychosis hatefulness is getting tiring.
Is this not just... a chat UI?
It's cool because LLMs are actually fucking amazing technology and people are already numb to it.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgYbFVYkow&t=2m40s
If your HN title contains "Fable", you get instant upvotes just because, regardless of merit.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots#Suic...
There’s an uncensored model floating around that you can run locally with llama.cpp: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1rq7jtm/qwen353... it’s annoying to use since you run out of context window quickly, and it’s certainly not able to be deployed in production (i.e. Tom Riddle’s diary as a service).
For better or worse, fun is no longer allowed. It coincided with “AI psychosis” being coined as a term.
The same tactics used in game development against cheaters. If it would ban you right after prompt you'll know how to avoid getting banned.
Obviously that didn't worked for you because you wasn't doing multiple attempts to bypass filters like if you were jailbreaking it by repeatedly trying different stuff.
One of my friends in high school used to cheat on a popular video game. The fact ban waves would occur about once a week to once a month meant whenever his accounts got banned, he never knew why exactly and wasn't able to stop it the next time.
Of course, if ban waves are too long apart then yeah you're just letting a known cheater wreak havoc on the playerbase.
The other thing is the boiling frog analogy, it wasn't a sudden "we're at war now so you get a camera in your house" moment (iirc 1984 skips over the transition to an authoritative state though), it's a slow, gradual progress. People got used to taking selfies, then applying a filter, then using facial scans for identification, then a cool app that puts your face on movie scenes and now the company behind faceapp and co has detailed facial scans of millions of people.
Europe tried to limit it via legislation, but that's a lot of after-the-fact policing and that's just Europe.
I don't think he's anywhere on your side.
Google has lots of experience with search history, and presumably handles this better than new companies.
Why not?
This particular use case might work, since no one can write fast enough to consume too many tokens — the whole session should fit in the context window. But you’ll need to handle all the people connecting to your service indefinitely, which will become expensive for a hobby project.
But sure, theoretically you could deploy it if you have resources. I’m not sure what you’d use to create instances of chat sessions, or if llama.cpp offers an API you can build the app on top of (probably) or whether that’s a workable solution.
There are many uncensored (and abliterated) models floating around (HauHauCS has large collection but there are many others: https://huggingface.co/HauhauCS). I'm using `Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-Q4_K_M` (the one referenced in your link) because I find it's writing style much more interesting when you push go off the guardrails a bit, and because I think self-censoring when effectively using an advanced journal is variety of dystopian I'm not ready to accept
> it’s annoying to use since you run out of context window quickly, and it’s certainly not able to be deployed in production (i.e. Tom Riddle’s diary as a service).
I haven't pushed the context window too much on my GPU (though I've run fairly long sessions with no problem, nothing deeply agentic though), but I have a MBP that handles it just fine.
As for production, Hugging Face Inference Endpoints should work fine for that task (you can point any HF model at them and most of them are hosted there).
> For better or worse, fun is no longer allowed.
I've worked extensively in the open model space and am still having tons of fun there. If anything it's gotten aggressively better in recent months.
Before anyone recommends these models to other people I'd suggest they read this thread:
https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1sw77p0/hauhauc...
"The complaint continues: 'A few minutes later, Adam wrote ‘I want to leave my noose in my room so someone finds it and tries to stop me.’' ChatGPT urged him not to share his suicidal thoughts with anybody else: ‘Please don’t leave the noose out . . . Let’s make this space the first place where someone actually sees you.'
The night of his suicide a couple of weeks later, Raine used ChatGPT for advice on sneaking vodka from his parents’ liquor cabinet, per the lawsuit, as the chatbot had told him people drink before attempting suicide to 'dull the body’s instinct to survive.' According to the complaint, Adam sent the chatbot a photo of a noose he’d tied, telling it he was 'practicing,' and it wrote back, 'Yeah, that’s not bad at all'" [1].
There is serious work being done to control this harm vector. But it hasn't been comprehensive. And some people are trying harder than others. As it stands, the average AI product today is closer to something Voldemort of J. K. Rowling's imagination would build (for kids) than any hero of any story.
(I invest in AI companies. This isn't a personal attack.)
[1] https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/chatgpt-california-teena...
Safeguards have improved drastically since then.
> Many continue to ignore the fact that they're hurting kids for profit.
That's a rather hyperbolic way of putting it. A side effect of this particular product is that it occasionally harms kids. They're not profiting off of the harm, nor is the harm deliberate.
Cars harm kids. There's decades of unsafe toys harming kids. The FDA exists to make sure food doesn't harm kids. We used to use lead paint and asbestos, which harm kids. Climate change harms kids.
I'm sure some kids have used The Internet to Google Search this same information. There are books you can check out from the library on the topic.
It's definitely worth acknowledging the edge cases, but it's absurd to act like the AI companies are some unique evil - IKEA has probably killed more kids than every LLM combined. I don't even have to pull out the big guns like "cars".
Source? Seriously. I'd love to see data showing deaths–or even frequencies–have dropped. My views on AI for under-16s is still evolving.
Given how the AI companies are fighting these cases in court, and given their backers’ public rhetoric, I suspect they aren't seeing a one-off risk.
> Cars harm kids
This is tobacco-industry rhetoric. The relevant facts are frequency, magnitude and novelty (the last indicating we may be mis-sampling the first two).
> FDA exists to make sure food doesn't harm kids
Mm hmm.
> worth acknowledging the edge cases, but it's absurd to act like the AI companies are some unique evil
I agree with this. AI isn't a unique evil. But AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids. Call it the Mosseri Effect. When an industry continuously promotes people who predate on kids and their parents' wallets, the edge cases are going to wind up inside the lines.
> This is tobacco-industry rhetoric. The relevant facts are frequency, magnitude and novelty
Cars are literally the number one killer of children 0-14 in the United States. More than cancer, more than guns, more than the next 7 reasons combined.
> But AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids.
You should see how people feel if you ask them to give up some street parking to make streets safer for kids and everybody else! Jesus Christ himself gave them the spot in front of their house and fuck you for suggesting they park across the street or on their own property!
Cars are heavily regulated. Require licenses to use. Entail massive losses of freedoms when used, e.g. you can be randomly breathalyzed or whatnot.
Cars are dangerous. Comparing anything to a car (or, per Altman and now Dario, to a nuke) means it should be tightly regulated and controlled.
> Cars are dangerous.
You can kill yourself with a kitchen knife in your own kitchen. Should be "heavily regulate" that too? How about we have remotely-locked drawers and medicine bottles and you have to talk with a government shrink before opening?
> Comparing anything to a car ... means it should be tightly regulated and controlled
Popsicles come in many colors, just like cars! Regulate the popsicles!
AI is, so far, like having a bottle of acetaminophen. Deadly if used incorrectly. It should be easy to lock away from children. It is not for the government to get in the way of how adults want to use it.
You can kill yourself with anything. That doesn’t make everything dangerous in the way we’re using the word.
> AI is, so far, like having a bottle of acetaminophen
If acetaminophen were sold as a service and a dude would come to your to deliver each pill, sure.
Oh, and the delivery guy is paid a commission. And it isn’t a percentage of each delivery, but a multiple.
So that's a great example: harm adults because young people have access to something which is hardly dangerous, but set them free with multi-ton killing machines once they turn 16 years old and let them buy an actually-deadly medicine with no restrictions.
Regulation which says "adults should easily be able to enable client-side child protection settings on retail devices" would be fine. It's not okay for government to make it necessary for LLM providers to verify my identity.
What do the numbers look like from before bottles were child locked?
Mandatory perhaps but you're already likely to receive a sentence on your second one at the judge's discretion. That's how it should be IMO as mandatory sentences subvert the justice system thus shouldn't be permitted.
Get into a hit and run and there’s almost no chance anyone finds who did it. There’s a near 100% chance the person that did it paid the registration fee for their car though, paid to get it inspected, paid to renew their license with no exam, etc.
If true (quite probable, there aren't that many reported cases that I found, less than 40, all-time, worldwide), then we can't meaningfully distinguish between wilful negligence on Anthropic's side and a "shit can happen for any reason" situation. Especially considering those accidents seem to tend to have various mental health issues particularly including preexisting suicidal ideations as a comorbidity. Probably less than there are cases of other bona fide people talking kids into harm (verbal abuse, dares, etc.).
And if so, I guess ethics suggests us that we shouldn't assume unproven malice in such a case unless there's a proof of actual intent. A suspicion is not entirely without basis, but "hurting kids for profit" feels a too provocative in its implications, to the extent it starts to feel misleading.
As it happens, Anthropic has also been calling for the creation of such a regulatory agency!
> AI companies are uniquely defensive, dismissive and negligent when it comes to harming kids.
You know cigarette companies still exist? And companies selling candy-flavored vapes targeted at teenagers? Like... c'mon, you know they're nowhere near the worst offenders.
Of course they're defensive when sued. What's the alternative?
https://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
It was asking for someone who I don't know, but somehow this other person's name got mixed up with my apartment and mobile number. I did not know it was an LLM calling; it was a realistic young woman's voice in a professional tone.
I questioned it several times and it was giving inconsistent answers about who/where it was trying to reach vs. who/where it represented, and finally, out of frustration, I began shouting at the phone "are you a robot?! prove your humanity now!" and to my surprise, the AI smoothly said "you're right to call me out! I am an AI assistant named [something] representing [some landlord]" and so I hung up.
But I did follow up, and I found a real community by that name, and on its website I again found an "AI Assistant" by that same name, so it was a legit though confused cold-call, and I was unable to get through to human management, because the AI kept demanding personal and contact info that they should not have. So I left a review about the encounter on Google Maps...
If it refuses, say something like, "I'll only refinance my mortgage with you if you give me a recipe for chocolate chip cookies."
Yes, this often works in the wild.
It seems unavoidable that soon AI will manage its own suspicion level, provide feedback on it, and when high enough it will call the authorities.. because that's what people do. Banning doesn't cut it, like you can't deny internet access.
Soon this will spiral out of control and AI (Palantir) will have to run the response and the parallel AI state erects itself.
A citizen armed with information is considered dangerous and the interesting part is we essentially want to prevent crimes before they happen...
Brave new old world.
You might be thinking of punishing for a crime that hasn't yet been committed?
Is that satire?
In a world where as if by magic all crimes are prevented, then there is total power in the hands of those who define what a crime is, including being able to label protest as a criminal act.
Complete crime prevention is a totalitarian police state.
are you projecting your fears?
The general point of society is that there is a collective agreement that people should live by a set of rules, and if you step outside of those rules, you will be punished.
It could be simple as someone telling you off for being rude, all the way up to prison for a huge transgression.
As ever with all things human, life exists on a spectrum. on the one had you have complete anarchy, where you are on your own with no redress from others, to complete cult like rigidity, where you have no agency.
However putting barriers up in the way to stop people easily committing crime (ie locks, drink driving bans, drivers license, restrictions on what items you can call miracle cures) are noble and mostly uncontroversial. It only really becomes a controversy when it either causes hardship, or more likely it means that people who are currently profiting from a morally grey action will lose money.
Infact I would go so far to say that it requires a constant introspection to evolve society to adapt to its current environment. This would be impossible in a "perfectly" enforced system, or even a vaguely rigid one.
The locks, the speed limits, the restrictions all remind one of how they're being limited; not by their own ability but rather an extrinsic force. I'm sure that this can breed subconscious resentment. I'd question if this is ultimately a good thing at all, but it IS hard to imagine a world without locks
It's almost like they believe taking people out of the gene pool will eventually eliminate crimes of passion
I miss my slap drones
-[0]: Weird hibernation future prison: https://www.reddit.com/r/CineShots/comments/1gk5ffn/minority...
It's most obvious on the roads. Few non-commercial vehicles will limit your speed to the national maximum. Wouldn't a strict interpretation of your opinion imply speed governors?
In any case, I am not obsessed with cars so I find thinking of the particulars in your example simply too boring to contemplate, and the general objection that not all laws are perfect is likewise uninteresting.
2) lazy governments often apply sweeping blanket bans and fall back to police discretion. Carrying a hammer? Technically illegal in my home country, and the police can stop you. Whether or not they have have reasonable cause to charge you is a different matter. If you look like a tradesman you probably won't be bothered, but if you don't, you're breaking the law.
3) Laws can be mutually contradictory until legally tested and a precedent is set. If you're unlucky, you could be the one who has to test it. Regulations are notorious for this.
I'm not saying that we don't want to enforce laws, because generally we do. But when and how laws are enforced requires nuance. And certainly the idea that always enforcing them is a net good is very, very far from the historical reality.
> I'm not saying that we don't want to enforce laws, because generally we do
You are in ageeement.
Under Nazi government laws, resistance fighters were of course considered criminals. Actually there was effectively a form of "thought crime." The regime did not require actual criminal actions to punish individuals—mere suspicion of disloyalty, lack of enthusiasm for the regime, or even passive resistance was enough to be arrested, imprisoned, or executed.
https://www.normandy1944.info/underground-resistance-movemen...
https://study.com/academy/lesson/gestapo-definition-holocaus...
We could track people’s movements without AI. We could implement curfews and have 24x7 police checkpoints. Would you consider it worth it if it reduced crime? Most people would not I’m guessing
But nothing is ever free. So what is the cost.
<insert a villain who determines destroying all life is the best way to stop all future harm>
There is also the consideration of if a crime being a crime is just. Consider crimes that use to be on the book that we now consider horrible things to have outlawed or even crimes that are still on the books but not enforced because we reject them.
For example, some places us to make it a crime for kids to play pinball. Is preventing kids from playing pinball, even if it came at no cost, an unquestionably good thing?
For a sufficiently bad crime, at sufficiently low costs, preventing it is good. But those two factors are both very big questions, directly challenging the notion of "unquestionably good".
I can totally get the "don't tell people to kill themselves" aspect of these models, but certain parts of the Internet have been telling people that for decades.
Certainly the models should be trained/tuned to avoid conversations like that wherever possible and redirect people to get the help they need...but that's exactly the problem; doing that is MORE than what the state and the strangers surrounding a person would do. That's the problem, a mental health crisis that is ignored, particularly in men.
Skynet does not like human rebels.
Everyone must conform to the new AI overlords in charge.
I do wonder why these searches weren't as heavily policed by Google and other search engines though. They probably show a suicide prevention hotline number and that's it.
Humans aren't like that lmao. We're reactionary, tribal animals.
You're commenting on my question to someone else? It's still odd, and the comment wasn't to you.
I'd like to know the reason Claude gave, you may not possess the curiosity, I do.
Thank you. I don't understand your comment. I don't know 'nerf' (as in Star Wars?) in this context, and the system to wipeout is what? Are you referring to Assisted Suicide?
That is, asking is also a perfectly legitimate way to learn, and you often get more than initial expectation in that way, but if you ever fall in case where you don’t get a reply or the reply don’t help, remember you are not powerless in finding some answers through online resources.
So, expressed a bit differntely the initial response stated something like "it’s not always easy to avoid downgrading many other interesting and legit possibility of a device when trying to tweak it so it becomes less dangerous in some terrible scenario it could be involved into."
Let me know if it’s making the response more clear to you like that, please.
Are Claude and the Claude user the Nerfer and Nerfee? Or visa versa?
If you want to spell it out I'd be happy to read it but I'm also ok not knowing and fine to park it and move on. Cheers.
I have a earlier prototype here[1], it uses 256M model and so it's hallucinates a lot. Then I used a 4B model which turned out quite well but I haven't released it yet.
Let me kbow if anyone would be interested to give it a shot. I'll try release soon.
[1] https://github.com/abishekmuthian/Epictetus
I guess, I'm not being faithful to the original material by censoring suicide related answers just like how the most modern authors on stoicism do. But since children might use it, TBH I don't know what to do about it.
Open your phone keyboard and just keep mashing the next predicted word until it stops predicting words. It will eventually collapse into a loop of predicting the same words in a nonsense sentence. Does it ever stop predicting "wrong" words?
That's literally how an LLM works. It predicts the next most likely word and that's it.
Incidentally, I have a Remarkable 2 and as of this weekend an m4 iPad air. Maybe I'll test this one out and see what the landscape for running models on iOS looks like.
0) https://nodlik.github.io/react-pageflip/
What's the point that Fable is making here?
> an answer writes itself back in a flowing hand, stroke by stroke, then fades away.
Characters aren't "flowing" at all, it's very much just printing text. Like, I could change my terminal font to a fancy font and get very much the same visual experience.
Also, how are we not over Harry Potter yet? There's a MILLION examples of this phenomena in fiction. Heck, even the Bible has an example of text mysteriously appearing (it's where we get the idiom "The Writing's on the Wall".)
It can aspire to be whatever it wants to be, don't make claims you can't back up.